to not leave tips for haircuts that cost £42

[southeastastra]

i will usually leave a tip all the time £2 here and there and even up to a fiver for a particularly good cut

but i will not leave a tip for a cut that now costs £42 it's not unreasonable is it

I can't cut my own hair, but I can do my own nails or give myself a facial. Therefore I go out for a haircut but not have my nails done. I cut my children's hair.

As for going out to eat. Oh my. 90% of the time, I cook better than them. It's just something we have to do when having a day out. It's too far to come home for food.

But then I don't go to fancy resturants often. The likes of pizza express and wagamama and chain pubs are pretty grim.

Haircuts are getting so expensive these days.

I think they should be available on the NHS, like dental is.

My rule on tipping is,

Cab drivers I round up.

Take away deliveries I tip if it's Christmas, New Year's Eve, really awful weather (we don't live in a very accessible place and they can get soaked getting to the door.

Hairdresser I don't, I go about twice a year, They tend to moan about how thick my hair is and then charge me more for it because it's taken longer.

The barbers however I tip, it's £6 each for my boys to have their hair done, I give £10 to each barber, mainly because they always do a good job, they stand there all day with a real constant stream of men and boys, it's always heaving and they're always friendly, polite and very patient with children.

Restaurants I tip depending on the service.

ALWAYS tip the kid whose washed your hair. It's an awful job (I've done it) and so few people do!

If you can afford the service you can afford to show appreciation of a good service

if you can afford a business, you can afford to pay your employees.

This has been an eye opener. DH complains that my haircuts have gone up to £19! It used to be £17. I take a £20 note and don't accept the change, so my hairdresser's tips have gone down as his prices have gone up.
Had a discussion about this with a friend who uses the same hairdresser. She pays £15, but has shorter hair so perhaps it takes less effort (or he likes her more!) She never tips and was surprised that I do.
My mother used to tip the hairdresser so I thought it was the done thing.

What a miserable bunch! Presumably no one works in a school and receives gifts from children? Or is in business where suppliers give gifts? Or anywhere where any sort of appreciation is shown for a job well done?

Redstrawberry, my staff are probably the best paid in the sector actually, they certainly don't rely on tips to make up for any shortfall. It's a knock on affect of being remunerated so being happy in their work therefore going above and beyond and earning extra recognition from happy customers.

*well remunerated!

I agree that it seems arbitrary who is customarily tipped and who is not, but I tip anyway.

I have darkish-brown hair and caramel highlights, very few colourists get it right - I wind up spending way too much money on it. If it's over £100-120, I don't tip (unless it's Christmas). It's just too expensive.

I never tip hairdressers, but I always bring them cake/flowers.

Redstrawberry, my staff are probably the best paid in the sector actually, they certainly don't rely on tips to make up for any shortfall. It's a knock on affect of being remunerated so being happy in their work therefore going above and beyond and earning extra recognition from happy customers.

that's great.

I am specifically objecting to the statement i quoted (from you?) about if you can afford X, you can afford to appreciate better than normal service. That doesn't actually follow, and really breaks away from paying in other parts of our system. Elsewhere, someone gives me a price, and I pay depending on whether or not I decide it is worth it.

Tipping, especially outside of the restaurant context (where you could argue that patrons should KNOW that the standard is 10%, but of course entirely blowing away any notion that tipping is optional), is variant. I may not WANT better service.

One could equally say if you hair dressers are that good, you should charge more for cuts, and pass some of that on to your employees. what I am objecting to is the recent notion (which is implied by what I quoted earlier) that tipping is NOT optional.

You pay for goods or services and shouldn't be expected to tip.
I have long given up and didn't realise just how much it adds up.

I get mine done at the local college. £8.00 for a cut and blow dry. No tips allowed, they're supervised students in training.

I don't tip. I'm a carer and I would imagine I get paid a lot less than hairdressers for a far more important job imo.

I tip my hairdresser about £3 for a £34 haircut. I give him a fiver at Xmas. He washes my hair, massages my head and shoulders and makes me a drink. I also tip taxi drivers a small amount of small change if they are on time and courteous and I always, always tip waiters at least 10% unless the service was poor. To those who say why these and not other people, I think it's definitely because of the element of service. My hairdresser really goes the extra mile to make me feel special, he isn't just pushing a can of beans through a till, likewise a waiter if they have been friendly and efficient can really add to a dining experience and they often have to look after you for several hours.

Colour, wash, cut. £10 each to colourist and stylist, £5 to the junior.

@superfurry

if level of service is the criteria, I assume you tip people in shops who help (hardware shops, clothing shops with some level of service, pubs, local grocer) and certainly school teachers. 150 days of attention for your little one? 10% tip at least.

You're supposed to tip after having a haircut? This is news to me! How does that work I pay by card should I finish paying then give extra cash - I think that'd be awkward.

I'm not allowed to accept tips in my job

I don't tip. I'm a carer and I would imagine I get paid a lot less than hairdressers for a far more important job imo. less money AND appreciation for a very important job. Not to say hairdressers aren't important of course just that carers are definitely NOT less important.

I usually pay 40-50 for a cut and b/d. I tip £5 to the hairdresser (assuming I am happy!) and £2 if a junior washed it for me.

I'm not entirely sure why I do it. I think it's because my mum was a hairdresser, she always tips the hairdresser she goes to and the junior who washes the hair and I guess I learnt from her to do it (same as I guess I learnt from my parents to tip in a restaurant as long as the service isn't bad). From the habit of tipping the hairdresser, I also tip the beautician if I go for waxing and the nail technician (all this is making me sound like a right glamour-puss, the reality is I get a professional wax once a year before summer hols and my nails done maybe at Christmas).

I only realised that people don't tip hairdressers when I saw a thread similar to this on another forum!

It's certainly not expected but it is nice when it happens. And I like the feeling I get when the takeaway delivery man looks surprised and happy at an extra quid, or whoever I'm tipping, probably I'm not supposed to feel good about it so will no doubt get slammed for that!

Dowser In the US, some jobs have a base pay that is less than minimum wage because they are traditionally tipped and the tips make up the difference. The people who take up passes will be paid minimum wage (or more) because that is not a tipped occupation, but servers in restaurants will receive a base pay that is less than minimum wage. If their tips don't make up the difference, then the employer must do it, but more than likely, they will just lose their jobs because the assumption is that they are not giving good service. In addition, the Internal Revenue Service will assume they are getting tips, and they might have their tax returns questioned.

Many thanks for following the tipping customs, btw. I live in Florida and both of my children have worked in the hospitality industry. Many Europeans did not tip, but I think that is changing as more people are aware of the customs (helped perhaps by discreet signs and notes on the bill.)