to not leave tips for haircuts that cost £42

[southeastastra]

i will usually leave a tip all the time £2 here and there and even up to a fiver for a particularly good cut

but i will not leave a tip for a cut that now costs £42 it's not unreasonable is it

Not only they have minimum wage, a lot of them gets tax credits and housing benefits.

Exactly right about the staff at tesco.

How about the lady who gives you your free coffee at waiteose? She's all smiles and friendly. And surely if you can afford waiteose you can pay her £1? It's ridiculous.

I worked in bars on NMW for 12 years and tips were really appreciated, so I always tip now. Hair and colour costs £60, I always tip £5 to the junior who washed and blow dried my hair.

I always tip taxi drivers / pizza delivery drivers £1-2. 10% ish for table service and usually give bar staff £1 per round of drinks. ( as long as they are all polite and serve me with a smile, that is!)

I stay on the 3rd floor (no lift) and often get parcels delivered by courier for my business that are HEAVY (I couldn't even lift them!) so I'll give the guy £5-10.

This thread confirms my suspicions that it's usually the people who are more well off, that are the ones who don't tip.

No, you don't have to, but it shows you appreciate their service.

I do see a difference - going to the hairdressers or out for a meal or to a beauticians is something we choose to do to treat ourselves or make ourselves feel good. We pay someone to do something we could do ourselves and if we enjoy the experience or appreciate it then we tip. Going food shopping is not, for most people, a treat. For me it's not about bumping up someone's wage, it's showing appreciation for an enjoyable experience. It's not mandatory and I don't do it because I feel I should.

I don't have a problem with tipping hairdressers, but it is a bit awkward. When I used to get expensive haircuts I didn't want to pay an extra 10% on 50 or 60 quid which was already a lot ?? but less seemed silly or pointed.

I now have a local, and really good, hairdresser who charges £15 (less for the kids) so I always tip 10-15%. Because I think they are charging so little, it must make a difference. Likewise I tip takeaway delivery people because it must be a tough and low-paid job and I want them to get better paid. (Much like waiting staff)

Have to say I prefer it when you can "round it up" and just not take the change.

When I used to have expensive cuts and highlights I hated the idea of tipping as there were always three people - the highlights, the cut and the junior who washes. A fiver just seemed too little, but a tenner is loads on top of an expensive cut.

Now I go for much cheaper haircuts and I tip a fiver. Much better!

£5 tip for stylist, £2 for shampoo girl

I always tip taxi drivers and in restaurants. Not sure what to do in pubs.

When I did bar work (many,many years ago) the rule was to take 10p if a customer tipped, and only to take the price of a drink if you were specifically told to. The 10p's soon added up on a busy night.

Now I don't know what the rule is for tipping in pubs. Does anyone know?

I'm with Noeuf - I work damned hard every day and never get a thank you letalone a bloody tip!! No more tipping!!

Those who say 'but they are so low paid they need the extra money' yes this is true but the employer is raking it in and is allowed to get away with paying their staff the minimum because it is seen as acceptable they the customer will top it up. How can that be fair?
I do tip when I get good service and it feels comfortable but I resent the fact we are made to feel like we should. If I get a good consultation, friendly staff member who puts me at ease and a good cut I am happy to tip.
Sadly I had my hair done on Monday and the stylist was rubbish. Cut was average and she spent her time chatting to other workers, looking away distractedly and repeating herself.
I have a friend who works for a well known (and expensive) London hairdresser. He regularly gets massive tips and has a very loyal client base. These people depend and trust him with their precious hair (v different to me! Hair is hair) so are happy to pay for a service they can rely on.

Oh an tipping in pubs...last time I worked in one (8-10 years ago) we took a pound if someone said 'take one for yourself'. We were allowed to take the drink e.g. Charge for a half etc but print out the receipt and have it at the end of the night. But for me this seemed a bit cheeky (especially those who took a pint) and I never wanted to hang around after work anyway.
Tbf there was only ever a few customers who did this anyway.

I don't tip :O But I'm not from here so didn't realise it was a thing? :P

Surely good service and a decent haircut is the basic requirement of the job not something you should feel compelled to pay extra for?

Likewise you are already paying waiting staff or takeaway drivers for delivering your food.

I don't think employers are necessarily raking it in. Some are but things like a local cafe or pizza place probably has to pay lower wages. I heard a radio 4 doc about how immigration rules are putting some takeaway places out of business, because they can't get the cooks with the skills they need unless they bring them in from abroad, but they can't because the rules state they have to be paid above 28K or something and it's just not possible.

I've talked about this on other tipping threads, but as someone with half a lifetime in the service industry I loathe tipping.

I'll buy the bartender a drink if I know them a bit, same as I would for a friend. And local taxi drivers often round down, so I'll sometimes round up, but that's about it.

I'll sometimes leave a tip in a restaurant if the service has been exceptional, for example if they've recommended a wine I've loved (but not if it was to flog me the bin end), but I've never tipped a hairdresser.

I agree with PPs who said tipping should not be necessary or expected - so we should all stop doing it!

Going to Florida as often as we did really brought home how much I hate the tipping culture there. We did it but I hated it. Rather than say a buffet was $20 I'd rather they said it was $25 and gave the difference to the staff.

I cant say we left the extra money with a good heart because we didn't. We felt the owners should have been paying their staff a proper wage. By the end of the two to three week stay resentment was boiling over.

I mean where does it start? Where does it end? You leave your 15 per cent on top of the bill for the waiter who does their job. Okay. What about the person at. Disney who checks your pass. They are stood on their feet all day. Should you tip them too for doing their job?

Disney and universal employ a lot of retirees and disabled people to take your pass or meet and greet. Should they qualify for a tip? Sometimes it's 30 degree heat. Should that make a difference?

What about the busboy who collects your car and brings it to you. He expects a tip. He often is waiting in the shade/ canopy of a large hotel until they get busy. Does he deserve less of a tip than the person stood or sat in the full on heat at Disney? Who doesn't get one!

What about the person at Walmart checking your groceries through the tills. She's doing her job as well. She might actually bag your stuff. She might have a bad back. She might really ache sitting there for 3-4 hours at a stretch. Do you pay and then go here's ??5 dollars for yourself. Oh hang on! I actually spent ?? 100 better make that ??15 for yourself then. Yes,have a nice day yourself!

On and on it goes and it's endless.

Who makes these stupid rules. Pay the people a living wage Ffs!

It's a socially embarrassing U.S custom we'd do well to avoid importing: we have better employment rights here (tminimum wage etc) and I don't want to subsidise employers.

Here's another thing duck daemon that gets my goat. You order a meal and you order a ??2 bottle of tap water. So say you bill for two of you comes to ??30 that's a ??4-50 tip at fifteen per cent.

Now then what if you decide to have a ??30 bottle of champagne bumping your bill up to 60 dollars ( I'm not taking the 2 dollars off by swapping water for champagne ;-) )

The tip then rises to ??9 . Now the waiter has still done the same job. Got the glasses, got the bottle and poured.

Now how does that make it fair on the customer.

I had a friend who took her three sons ( teenagers) and husband to Florida . They stayed in a hotel and did a cruise for another week . What they paid in tips she said they might as well have taken a 6 th person, especially on the cruise ships where she paid for tips in advance ( this is something a lot of them are doing) and then still paid tips on drinks by the pool, 2 lots of room servicing etc.

Madness!

If you're going to be 'proper' about things you should only work out a tip in a restaurant based on the cost of food, not the total including drinks.

I always tip at the hairdressers.

I never tip. I think its embarrassing to give an grown adult 2 pounds

I tip when I pay cash (e.g. taxi / take-out delivery) or when there is an easy way to do it by card (e.g. restaurants). but I don't tip the hairdresser because I pay £40 by card and don't normally have the right change for a tip.

In the USA, the hairdresser would give me 2 envelopes at the till for tips for the stylist and hairwasher, so then I would tip.

but if my UK hairdresser doesn't make it obvious & easy to tip, I'm afraid I don't.

It is interesting to see how divided this board is on tipping for haircuts.

I always tip and if it's our regular salon and myself and 5DC get our hair done at the same time it come's to nearly £200 and that's with a VIP discount.

I tip if the service is good,so hairdressers,waiters/waitresses,cab drivers.

This explains why I have never had my hair cut how I wanted it, and why the hairdresser never talked to me. I didn't even realise I was meant to tip them.

That's interesting lanbro. Is that the rule. I've never comes across that one before.

I do see a difference - going to the hairdressers or out for a meal or to a beauticians is something we choose to do to treat ourselves or make ourselves feel good.

I don't see going to a hairdresser as a treat. It's something I have to do, just like food shopping. I don't go to a beautician.