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RedYellaGreen · 08/09/2015 08:33

What Kiggenpaws said:
"From my experience if you've got attitude about this then you're probably going to have attitude about being asked to behave in class!"
Smile

Mistigri · 08/09/2015 08:39

In fact most of the children on my FB feed who've been pulled ups for flouting obscure rules are good students who are no trouble in class at all.

Mistigri · 08/09/2015 08:41

Does anyone else wonder why, if the aim is - as people are at pains to claim in this thread - to prepare pupils for a life at work, why university students don't have to wear uniform?

After all they are much closer to getting a job than your average 7 year old.

treaclesoda · 08/09/2015 08:48

I think by the time you're at university you should already have developed the maturity to know about sticking to the rules and how to go about trying to change the ones you feel are pointless or harmful.

Spartans · 08/09/2015 08:48

nobody I can't explain that rule. Because it's ridiculous. I don't get it either.

I have to say though, lots of people don't choose where they work. Lots of people will take any job to pay the bills.

Snowfilledsky · 08/09/2015 08:49

Not sure Nobody, one of my teens has a locker the other doesn't but still no coat.

DS has just started 6th form. He and his friends looked very smart in their 'formal wear'. Smile

SuburbanRhonda · 08/09/2015 09:01

Probably not quite rebellious enough for this thread, but if anyone's struggling to pay for school uniform, ask if the school has any secondhand donations from previous pupils. I clothed my two almost exclusively in trousers and skirts from the secondhand uniform sale when they were at primary. At secondary, I passed on anything they grew out of that was still in good condition.

Alternatively, there's always the free school uniform thread over on credit crunch Smile

yeOldeTrout · 08/09/2015 09:01

the shoes thing winds me up. All those examples of rejected schools should have been fine in my mind. Hair was obviously asking for trouble, though.

I went to no-uniform schools & all of those items would have been fine (spotty blue hair & piercings too). Even in UK, I notice that kids attending non-uniform schools are much more likely to be scruff bags than wearing anything designer.

Helpmeoutofthemaze · 08/09/2015 09:26

Schools have rules.

You don't like the school's rules? Don't go there then.

If you go to a school, you accept their rules.

It's so basic and straightforward with no ambiguity.

I cannot understand the entitlement/arrogance of people who join a large institution and think they can make their own rules. Who do they think they are? I have never even met a person like this. I have met plenty of people who like things like the leopard print hairstyle. That's fine at university, when you are a young adult. Not at school when you are a child who needs to follow rules. Or learn to.

Snowfilledsky · 08/09/2015 09:32

I agree Help (still think the hair is awful though Grin)

I have been doing the school uniform thing since 2003. I have never had any issues with it. Get the uniform list, buy what's on the list, not what isn't and get on with it.

It's one of those things where there's always one that will want to go against the rules and be all loud about it.

Witchend · 08/09/2015 09:44

It is entirely for their actions not for the actual uniform. It's for breaking a rule.

Glasgoow · 08/09/2015 09:58

I think its all wank rules. Who are they to say what someone can and cannot do with their own hair?

Then again I've been sacked twice for "not respecting authority", last manager insisted she was my boss and I should do as she says. I told her I'm my own boss and answer to no one.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/09/2015 10:05

It's all just ridiculous.

it's a hair cut not a bag full.of drugs.

and the prices of some of these tbimgs. socks? really?

who the fuck cares if someone has official socks.

all this measuring and inspecting us a waste of time that should be spent on teaching.

shoes are expensive and of sold as school shoes they should be allowed as school shoes

ToastyFingers · 08/09/2015 10:05

"From my experience if you've got attitude about this then you're probably going to have attitude about being asked to behave in class!"

Really not true in my opinion, favouring an alternative hairstyle rather than whatever is currently fashionable has no bearing on behaviour in or out of class.

That being said, if the rules stipulate a 'sensible' hair colour then that's fair enough.

Also, Tesco and the like usually provide most if not all of the uniform you're expected to wear, which certainly wasn't the case when I was in school.

Snowfilledsky · 08/09/2015 10:07

Most people manage to do all the uniform with no fuss whatsoever.

uneducated · 08/09/2015 10:11

There is always one dickhead family, who allow their kids to flout school rules on the first week.

Usually it happens in 'shit' schools and by the sort of families, who would queue up to appear on Jeremy Kyle to get aire their 'tragic' circumstances.

I bet the 'scruffy' mother demanded payment for the interview and photographs.

However the Forge Valley school appears to be a good school, and would be better off 'excluding' dear Lauren permanantly !

It is funny this type of nonsense never happens in grammar schools or in schools where parents have to 'jump through' hoops to attain a place for their children .

yeOldeTrout · 08/09/2015 10:11

When you read about 50 kids sent home on first day of term, or someone turning away many kids at the gate, it smacks of bad planning & poor quality information given to parents.

IKnowIAmButWhatAreYou · 08/09/2015 10:15

At least it lets the school know who the potential pain in the arse kids & parents are pretty quickly.

This sort of thing has been going on forever & it's always "those" families that do it...

IKnowIAmButWhatAreYou · 08/09/2015 10:16

it smacks of bad planning & poor quality information given to parents.

Bollocks, it smacks of lead pipes in the water supply or a nearby electricity substation or just plain old skanky areas.....

GoblinLittleOwl · 08/09/2015 10:17

Saw a presumably muslim girl today on her way to the very strict girls' grammar school, wearing a black and white leopard print headscarf. Think she will get short shrift.

BoomBoomsCousin · 08/09/2015 10:19

It's frustrating that this country is shouting out for more entrepreneurs but our school system seems obsessed with conformity.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/09/2015 10:21

or it smacks of sheer stupidity on he schools behalf.

one skirt length available? fine if your 3 ft not so good if your 5 ft 6.

shoes? yeah the grip less expensive lace up shoes? well find if you have perfect feet that fit any shoe and daddy drives you.

not exactly any good fir those who walk to school in all weather's and their feet are soaked before they get to the bottom of the drive way.

staff patrolling outside wrapped in coats waiting to pounce on kids daring to try and keep warm when the poor quality EXPENSIVE coats leave them hypothermic.

not forgetting deliveries that don't show leaving parebts unable to try on and return/re order as necessary.

no trousers for girls? it's 2015 ffs

not one of these things affects how the kids learn or how they behave.

and it shouldn't take newspaper articles to get schools to see sense

Snowfilledsky · 08/09/2015 10:24

Seems there's more problems with people adhering to school uniform for girls. Lots of talk about flimsy shoes and short skirts, and lots of hoo-har about trousers/no trousers.

You can't really go far wrong with boys uniform.

RooftopCat · 08/09/2015 10:40

I like the idea of school uniform - you know exactly what to wear in the morning. But some school the uniform rules are either so lax that anything goes so it's not really a uniform anymore and looks scruffy. Or the uniform policy is so strict and the uniforms expensive that the kids wear blazers and skirts about three sizes too big for them - it looks ridiculous and uncomfortable.
The leopard hair is hilarious.

NotYouNaanBread · 08/09/2015 10:49

It's not really about the uniform. It's about whether or not you can follow some (fairly simple) instructions and do what you're told. From my experience if you've got attitude about this then you're probably going to have attitude about being asked to behave in class!

This.

And that attitude is going to extend into adulthood when she encounters employers who don't pander to her. It's not about the hair, it's about getting on in the world. There's plenty of time to be non-conformist when you identify your strengths.

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