to be pissed off about people who complain about how tired they are

[PunkrockerGirl]

I am not including parents with babies or young children. Or people with older children with disabilities.
I mean people like my colleague who bounces into work saying she's really tired because she's only had 5 hours sleep. This is a one off for her, she says she sleeps well normally but we should make allowances for her today.
I would donate a limb/kidney for 5 hours sleep. Average between 3-4 hours and don't expect allowances to be made for me.

YABU. You don't know why your colleague is so tired (maybe she doesn't either). I'm much more tired nowadays than I ever was when I was being kept awake at night by small children. That is because despite the lack of sleep I was young, healthy and not suffering from a chronic disabling illness.

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I like to think I would smile and say something nice! For myself as much as for others, to try and feel better. But if they are at work and you ask, fatigue might make a difference in their performance, so it might be sensible to reply and say so.
I mean pointless complaining, when nobody asked how you are and nobody can help anyway.

Blimey OP.

I would never begrudge anyone their sleep.

Bitter? Much?

We had 3 years of hardly any sleep with 2 babies, one of whom used to spend his nights projectile vomiting and his days screaming. However, I never begrudged any of my colleagues/friends their sleep.

Who knows what's in store for any of us?

The most tired I have ever been was when working night shifts with three children under age of five.

If the colleague really did "bounce in" then she's probably not a joyless depressing moaner, just someone making idle if somewhat vapid chitchat. Moaning doesn't have to be serious or intended to gain you one upmanship - sometimes when you talk about your everyday life the most recent thing that has happened to you is a tiny bit shit, so that's what you say. When I chat to my workmates we might tell each other that our cars have broken down, or we were stuck on a train for an hour due to signal failure, or we've broken a toe in a Le Creuset related disaster or we're knackered because we were up six times changing the sheets of DC with norovirus. And we respond "Oh that sounds crap you poor thing" even if we're struggling with much more serious life stuff because it's just small talk - it's a form of light entertainment.

Sounds like general chat and conversation opener to me.

YABU. You don't know why she is getting no sleep, all kinds of invisible health problems can lead to a lack of sleep and it's a nightmare (no pun intended!) when you have gone months and months with little sleep.

Why do you get so little sleep op?

I average 8 hours of sleep a night but am always tired, yabu.

I think I'm allowed to be irritated at

Op if you think this you probably shouldn't have posted on AIBU because you clearly don't think you are BU.

Mary
Where in this thread have I said why I'm not sleeping? You've made a massive false assumption that I'm physically or mentally healthy just because I'm working full time on very little sleep.

usual you obviously don't have a loud yawner/sneezer attention seeker amongst your acquaintances

I work nights......I'm entitled to be tired during the day

...then turn to other people and say 'what are you moaning about, you have no idea what tired is until you have a child'.

Ah sorry, I thought it was obvious from my post that I would never, ever say this to someone. Someone did say it to me once, before having children, when I was having chemotherapy and so, so tired (and in the middle of a big struggle to conceive so it seemed doubly cruel!)

I took your post to mean that you are not allowed to moan about something like having children because you should know what you are in for, which, ime, is just not the case.

I've been insomnic since I was 15. I am now 54. Generally I sleep for between 3-5 hours a night, sometimes a little more and often a lot less. Despite this, tiredness has never been much of a problem until now.

Now I am sleeping for an average of 6 hours a night. Sometimes more but with occasional 0 hours sleep a couple of times a month. I am knackered. Tired ALL the time. I think about being tired more than I have ever done before. I don't know why I am tired and the Dr has ruled out any physical problems so far. But, omg, I AM TIRED!!!!!

Sorry, that quote wasn't directed at you personally hazey, was just playing devil's advocate, as it were.

And goodness me, no. Those with kids are of course entitled to moan. It's bloody difficult, and I've only known it somewhat as a by-product of having much younger siblings thus far (one of whom suffered night terrors for years). I've also suffered from insomnia myself, and currently lacking sleep due to extra snorey partner. So many ways to lose sleep, anyone who does, for whatever reason, only has my sympathy.

I'm exhausted most the time. Despite getting 8 hours a night and a 3 hour 'nap' when time allows. If someone told me off for complaining for being tired.. I'd probably punch them in the tit.

Wicked I did permanent nights when my dc were small. I used to get home from work, give them breakfast, take them to school. Go to bed till 2.30 then get up, fetch them and give them tea. Dh would then take over and I'd go off for the next 12 hour shift.
It was knackering but it worked for us.

Jesus, some people on here will find offense in an empty room.
I work with people who are having chemo and who know the true meaning of fatigue.
Some people didn't read my op.
I've never said why I don't sleep, but people are very quick to make assumptions

I have sleep averse children

Is that an actual thing?

I've never heard of it before and it didn't come up when googled.

Yes, but fatigue and pure exhaustion are different from feeling tired, op. They aren't really comparable, are they, especially when talking about going through treatment like chemo. Your title only mentions people feeling 'tired', which yabu, they are entitled to feel so. It's like saying 'my colleague said she's hungry and hasn't had a chance to eat all day, is she wrong to moan because I know there are people who are literally starving?'.

Mary
Where in this thread have I said why I'm not sleeping? You've made a massive false assumption that I'm physically or mentally healthy just because I'm working full time on very little sleep.

Err.. No you are the one making assumptions. Why do you think I was talking about you and your health?? I was making the point that tiredness/fatigue doesn't just correlate with how much sleep someone is getting. I sleep for 7 or 8 hours nowadays but I'm a lot more tired than I was when I got less sleep (due to young children waking) because I have a chronic illness.

I think it's quite a sad state of affairs if people can't talk about how they are feeling just because someone else may be worse. Everyone's problems are bad to them.

Oh a competitive tiredness thread, how thrilling.

Actually thought I was tired until I read you got three to four hours sleep... positively bouncing compared to that.

different people need different amounts of sleep though. Pisses me off with the overt moanings too. sometimes I piss myself off and want to give myself a slap when I catch me doing it...