To think Cheryl Fernandez-Versini is way to thin.

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www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3202619/Cheryl-Fernandez-Versini-displays-slim-physique-black-jumpsuit-perfume-launch.html

Her arms just look way too thin, the article is not the greatest photos but a quick google makes her look even thinner.

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/cheryl-fernandez-versini-defies-weight-critics-6027419

Ffs. It's not body shaming, it's stating the fucking obvious! The woman looks gaunt and ill ignoring it won't make it go away.

minty really? So all the female athletes with body fat that low or lower aren't healthy? Funny that no actual medical expert has ever found me unhealthy.
Visible ribs may not be something you desire, but I've got them, and they're part of the reason my body is great at what I want from it. So whether you think I'm either healthy or desirable is irrelevant. I like my body for myself, and I wouldn't want to change it just because people are rude enough to make personal comments.

No one is making a personal comment about your body though Lurked.

This might be surprising to you lurking, but it's not all about you

Of course they are minty. Swop Cheryl for someone size 14 (so the bigger end of healthy) the words too skinny, unattractive, undesirable, gaunt, boney etc to fat comments and everyone would be agreeing it's slagging someone.
Hard not to project when people like yourself are making statements that do actually apply to myself and more importantly my dd, and the physiche she's clearly inherited.

Ffs. It's not body shaming, it's stating the fucking obvious!

Funny, how absolutely no-one thinks that of someone dares mention that someone is overweight! It's the double standards that do my head in!

I'm a size 6. I'm not underweight. When I was 18-20 I was a size 10. I've never been on a diet. It means nothing that Cheryl was bigger in her Pop Stars days. She was a teenager, they're not known for having great diets. People's attitudes do change without them resorting to diet pills, or having eating disorders

I completely disagree, I've never seen this "excusing" of being overweight that people here seem to encounter every day, quite the opposite! Fat people are routinely berated on all public forums, thin people are excused. Like this thread. That's where the double standards lie.

Nobody ever said 'you never be too rich or too fat'.

The difference here is that skinny is aspirational. Fat isn't. My office loos and coffee area for example have little signs up saying things like 'please god make all my friends fat if you can't make me thin' etc. friends are constant sharing FB memes about dieting and wanting to be thin.

The foundation of celebrity (ergo aspiration for he masses) culture seems to be founded on skinny.

I've never seen a celebrity post images of herself designed to look fatter or dressed in clothes that make her look fatter.

So arguing that thin shaming is as bad as fat shaming is disingenuous. My dds have never heard of thin kids at school being teased, in fact competitive under eating seems to be the norm at school. Only the fat ones get the shaming.

There IS a difference.

And btw I'm 5'9, size 8 with BMI of 18 and I don't find this 'thin shaming' offensive at all. I feel v grateful that I don't have to diet and that I can exercise without getting out of breath and order stuff online and know it will probably suit me. Even jeans.

But I am concerned when anyone loses weight dramatically, or indeed gains weight dramatically, as there is often an underlying cause. And I am concerned about the images that are put out there in the media of celebrities an aspirational thinness.

And btw (finally!) I do get a lot of comments about my figure, but they seem to be said in an either envious or complimentary way. I'm not going to jump up and down in outrage at that.

No, I still disagree with you Lurked.

I am 5'2" and a size 16 and very definitely fat. I am happy to own that and acknowledge that it is unhealthy and not ideal.

I don't think every online comment about the size of an overweight celebrity reflects on me personally, not at all.

I think it's concerning when already slim beautiful women feel they need to be even slimmer.

And if anyone dare say this is concerning, they are women-shaming or 'jealous' to quote lurk.

The media is full of gorgeous, slim women who then visibly disappear in the public eye.

Again, people ignoring it because it doesn't effect them. I've never been on the end of fat shaming, I can still admit it happens. The media may promote thinness, other females in general think it's open season to comment on both appearance and eating habits.

mulberry although you are healthy thin by anyones, and I'm sure you get compliments,I guess I have a different body type to you, so it's unlikely we would have the same experience. Not sure what competitive under eating has to do with it, neither dd nor I would or would want to be winning that. Nor am I saying I get insulted all day, I certainly don't. Just because the media focuses on it, doesn't make it ok to balance it out by being offensive about it elsewhere. It's the casual double standards of some females that I object to.

minty assuming average build for that height and a size 10 in m&s and healthy, would you not be a bit irritated if people discussed someone with a similar physiche with comments about unattractive and possible binge eating? Because that's the equivalent, not if you are actually saying you're currently overweight.

she no. The thread wasn't about worrying about the fact someone has lost weight, it was about her appearance and whether she was too thin. You can discuss losing weight too quickly or the dangers of going about it incorrectly without naming and shaming. Because that could apply to people who were previously unhealthily large dropping rapidly to healthy weight too. And without being privy to her eating habits, we can't debate them. Although you don't maintain muscle like that through starvation style diets if I had to guess at her lifestyle from a photo.

lurk she has clearly lost weight, looking at those photos in the OP's links.
And she clearly wants to show off her thinner body, which can only mean she thinks it's a good thing (it would have been easy to avoid the cropped top).

This is always the trend with women in the public eye.

Beautiful, slim women, who feel they need to be thinner still. Then always giving some spurious reason for their weight loss 'I've been ill' 'I've been running around after my toddler' etc. Never admitting (except in later autobiographies) that they are being put under pressure by an asthetic to reduce their size, often to an unhealthy degree.

Yet anyone not falling over themselves to celebrate the weight loss is 'jealous' to use your words.

Beautiful woman. But I think she needs to stop now she looks fine but is on the "edge" if you see what I mean.

she that might be your take on it, which whether your correct or not ( because none of us actually know her) I wouldn't say was motivated by jealousy. You're discussing the health implications of losing weight to a level which isn't natural for that individual persons body. Others are making negative comments about her current appearance, which for some people is a natural healthy size, because we're all different. I'd need to sit on my sofa eating deep fried lard all day to touch size 12, I'm just not built like that. Doesn't mean I believe everyone over size 12 must therefore sit about eating lard. Because we're all made differently. Even if we actually knew she was following bad habits, nobody thinks making unnecessary rude personal comments is the way to discuss fat, so I fail to see why it's ok for thin. Thats not concern, just a crap excuse to insult different physiches to your own.
I also think it's not up to you to assume any given reason is a bluff. Some people do go off food when they are stressed, and we all have different metabolisms. And until we actually know we shouldn't be guessing. I'm sure that while Cheryl was slim not thin in girls aloud days, iirc I saw some of her pre fame kid and teen stuff (dd was girls aloud fan) and she was a thin kid and teen.
When Kiera knightly, Natalie Portman, Nicole Richie, etc have been called out on their thinness, I don't remember much focus being aimed at the fact the former 2 were always tiny, it was all about how thin they all were. The media weren't after Nicole Richie out of concern for her, it was a page filler and body shaming exercise, if Paris Hilton had gained a stone they'd have happily been body shaming that instead.

She is one of the most beautiful women I can think of.

I would be concerned for her if she was my daughter

She really is something else isn't she.. I hope she's ok

Trex there is obviously such a thing as too thin. It's not "too thin for my tastes" when a woman is dying from Anorexia

I never said there's no such thing as too thin - of course there is, and dying of anorexia would certainly be too thin - but this doesn't apply to Cheryl. If you've ever seen anyone in the late stages of anorexia, they don't generally look toned and healthy but slim, as they have no energy to build muscle, they look wasted away. It's fucking ridiculous to try to say Cheryl looks like that, she doesn't, she is just not to your taste, which is of no consequence whatsoever.

Do you think we (collective we) should wait until someone is in the late stages of anorexia to be concerned for her Trexing? Surely you know that anorexia has the potential to kill from the outset. And a frighteningly large percentage of those diagnosed with anorexia never recover, even if they don't die young.

I don't think she is that beautiful, she looks like she has had some work done - teeth straightened and whitened, botoxed etc and my god she is skeletal. I think it has aged her enormously. Why do all thse people take it too far?

Also, I don't understand why the loss of her father in law would make her not eat to quite this extent. I am sure she is sad and supporting her husband, but she can't have known the father for much more than 18 months. Would it have such an impact on her life as to make her grieve and drop so much weight?

I've recently lost someone who is the father of a dear friend of mine. I've known him 40 years, yes it is upsetting of course it is, but he isn't my father, he is my friend's father. This isn't Cheryl's father, she hasn't known him decades.

I imagine there is something else going on TBH.

I think she's too thin. Yes we're meant to be lean but we're also meant to have some reserves for times of illness, famine, pregnancy and breast-feeding etc. How long would someone that thin last if they got a serious illness that caused further weight-loss?