Withdrawing the £36 a week from families with children, whose asylum applications have been rejected is a challenge to our humanity

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We should feel ashamed.

yet more EU migrants went to Germany

Apologies BTW I had the wrong year for the convention - it was 1951.It defines an asylum seeker as
"A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.."

and Tiggy most of those EU migrants are working - so paying tax and NI - so entitled to use public services.

we don't give resources to Illegal Immigrants because they are illegal

tiggy if they do have a large number of legal EU migrants but don't worry about it, why is that? Less media scaremongering?

more in actual numbers

The UK is hardly drowning in urban development btw - we still have a fair amount of space

do you think all the immigrants to Germany live in the mountains or the big crowded cities?

this is an interesting read www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11258430/Whos-been-coming-to-Britain-Immigration-explained.html

If they are coming for the "£35 spends" it would make more sense to stay in France, I understand the "spends" they offer a higher.

And yes we can rock on up to other countries and claim money, we can do it in countries that have reciprocal arangements and if for what ever reason we needed to claim asylam then we can.

actually to be fair when I was an immigrant to Germany I DID live in the mountains - well ON a mountain actually - with Polish/Australian/Irish/American/Luxumbourgians/Swiss/Yougaslavians and other Brits - oh and a lovely woman from Finland

YABU. It'd be nice, but it isn't going to happen. The people voted in a government that favours cuts to the welfare state and will enact them. This will go by the wayside just like all the other cuts.

oh and the first country 'rule' is a myth btw! Ghosty, could you elaborate a little (genuine Q not goading/trolling whatever) - I am vaguely aware of something about a convention - Dublin?

Last night on Radio 5 Steven Nolan agreed with a caller that the first country rule was "the law" and I thought of you ....

gosh and yet Munich is awash with Irish bars

maybe more schools need to be built then - which would benefit everyone

To answer the original question, if your claim for asylum has been rejected you should go back to your country of origin. I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay for your own airfare to get there...

The nhs is struggling.
SS are struggling.
People here are using food banks.
The education system is struggling.

These services are being deliberately run down by our government. I'm sick of hearing it as an excuse to withdraw even more services.

I wish the OP would come back

I think this has been a much better discussion than some of ones here but I can not find any information to support her OP

which is confusing

If there is a delay in the practicalities of deporting them (which ideally there shouldn't be, for everyone's sake) they should still be fed and housed (securely). People can't live on thin air.

Ghosty - "Thousands of asylum seekers with children will have to live on £73.90 a week from August as a result of cuts of up to 30% in their support payments, the UK Home Office has announced."
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/16/asylum-seekers-with-children-to-see-support-payments-cut

Thank you Garlick

ghosty, my solution is to send failed asylum seekers back to their country of origin or failing that, they last country they came through before coming to the UK.

France is supposed to send them back to their first country of entry to the EU eg Italy. that is where the breach of law is taking place.
In the UK we have a much much bigger issue with people here on a visa who over stay by the way not illegal immigrants in the sense we are seeing in the papers but that is getting much less publicity which is ridiculous. The over stayers are usually not found and not sent back.

ghostyslovesheep Could you please elaborate on why the "first country rule" is a myth?

Cabbage we ALREADY do

Dad - just that really - there is no requirement to claim asylum in the first country you enter

RedDaisyRed So far as I can tell, minimal numbers of people of any kind who are here illegally are being detected and deported.

I suspect that is one of the real reasons we are attractive.

There is a problem with all this though - in that places we'd like to send them "back" to aren't always that keen to accept people.