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DH always frustrated. Is he BU or AIBU to be sensitive?

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ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 25/07/2015 07:51

Hello all, DH seems to always be frustrated in our relationship to the point where he has little outbursts of sulking, moodiness and swearing. The things which particularly set him off are if the house is slightly untidy (it is always pristine). Or if he needs to work in the garden he carries it out with an air of annoyance. He says he cannot relax until things are tidy and jobs are done. When he has these outbursts, it makes me feel like I want to do a number 2 - it chills me and makes me feel on the edge. He knows this but carries on anyway, stating that he is not being unreasonable about being frustrated from time to time.

However, it has really got me down and I always seem to be anticipating his mood. He has said some really mean things that I can't shake off and I feel a bit damaged. He also puts that down to not really meaning it and being frustrated at the time.

So any little outburst of frustration from him will really affect me to the point that I feel I can't be with him anymore. When I confront the behaviour, he just brushes it of as me not being able to deal with adults getting annoyed.

Last weekend, for example, we went to an event and were stuck in traffic. My way of dealing with it would be 'oh well, annoying, but we can't do anything about it' kind of thing.

His reaction was to keep banging the steering wheel, swearing, growling, going on and on about how we always fail, and we should have got up earlier and we are always rubbish. He kept saying he was goin to have a breakdown - and the atmosphere in the car was blue. DS aged 4 was in the back saying nothing, being a good little boy. I said to DH, why don't you walk if you are frustrated and I will drive and meet you there(I had seen on my phone map that we were 1.7 miles away). He spitted that I always say stuff that doesn't mean anything and don't know what I am on about, and how could I expect him to walk on a verge with stingers. He chose to stay in the car and keep complaining that we were missing all the best stuff.

We finally got there and we didn't miss the best stuff, but there was a bit of a walk to the arena. DS is only little and cannot walk fast but I could see DH face getting more and more annoyed as he cannot walk slow.

On the way home, I confronted him about his behaviour and said he behaved like a prick. I know I should not have use that name (but it was the first time I used any insult in 16 years of being together and it was probably the first time I stood up to him).

He did not take kindly to that and rolled his eyes, shut down the conversation and refused to help me navigate home. There were several roads closed and I didn't know where I was going. I asked him if I should go right and he made out he didn't know (with attitude). I proceeded to turn right and it was wrong and he screamed at me (turn fucking left!!!!) luckily DS was sleeping.

A horrible atmosphere followed for a couple of days. I apologised for using the p word. Suggested couples counselling (which was originally his idea but he was now saying he would feel uncomfortable and embarrassed talking in front of a stranger).

I asked him if he wanted something to eat for dinner one evening and he didn't answer me or look at me. I asked him again, he said yes please. I made him the dinner which he was pleased with because afterwards he was hugging me. So confusing, he oscillates from moods to being happy i can't keep up with it.

When I tried to discuss it last night again, he shut it down and made it my problem that people get frustrated from time to time and I am unable to deal with this which is normal. I said it isn't acceptable if it makes me feel terrible and he replied in a sarcastic tone that he was sorry for getting frustrated and disturbing 'your lovely life'.

I know the traffic situation seems minor, but it is just to illustrate. It makes my stomach feel tight and puts me on edge.

Who has the problem? Is it me being sensitive, or is it quite common for partners to behave this way when they are annoyed?

Thanks

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ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 25/07/2015 12:59

I am astounded you all think he is being unreasonable. When I have spoken to friends before, they said i do take things to heart as I'm quite sensitive.

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clam · 25/07/2015 13:09

Well, I'm not particularly over-sensitive and can give as good as I get, but he sounds intolerable to me. You've been too accommodating for too long, by the sounds of it. You poor thing. Flowers

MrsDeVere · 25/07/2015 13:09

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musicalbingo · 25/07/2015 13:09

Agree with I love sooty

Also you don't have to do anything. You just "feel you should" because its "doing the right thing".

Change is scary and can feel overwhelming especially when you have been with someone so long and as you mention your lives as so entangled (PIL etc ) its easy to feel that its insurmountable or impossible. It is not, there is always a way

Ignore what other people want (PIL, husband etc) and focus on you and protecting your child.

bigbumtheory · 25/07/2015 13:30

Have you told your friends everything OP? Or have you minimised and said how 'lovely he can be' while explaining the abuse?

Get some advice from womens Aid and solicitor so you are ready for his guilting and manipulation. Good luck with everything, I'm sorry you've had to live with this, through your childhood and through your marriage now.

TendonQueen · 25/07/2015 13:49

Your friends probably haven't realised how he expects you to be perfect and saintly while holding himself to a very different standard. Plus there is often a lot more tolerance for men getting angry 'they can't help it' style than for women. That is changing though and there is not a lot of tolerance for it on this site. Too often 'over-sensitive' = 'not wanting to be a doormat'. It can make people uncomfortable too about their own relationships to admit that others have legitimate grievances, if their partner also acts like yours at times.

ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 25/07/2015 13:56

In a conversation I had with DH recently when it got to breaking point, I showed him the Lundy Bancroft book and made him read a paragraph. He hung his head in shame as he admitted it sounded like him. He promised he would make an effort et. And then the traffic incident followed.

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sooperdooper · 25/07/2015 14:03

Do you have somewhere you can go with your DS? I would pack up, and calmly explain to him you can't deal with his behaviour anymore and go, it doesn't sound like he is taking it in when you've spoken to him, you need to act for your sake and your DS

sooperdooper · 25/07/2015 14:04

I don't know the book OP but if it made a breakthrough to him make him read it again when you tell him you're leaving

ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 25/07/2015 14:09

Yes I have made many threats but never followed through as his behaviour becomes good.

I have somewhere to go on mon as a friend goes on holiday and said she will leave a key for me just in case

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Squeegle · 25/07/2015 14:12

It sounds to me that you will have minimised when talking to your friends.
If you had a daughter would you like her to have a husband like yours?
If the answer is no, then it matters not what your friends think; you know how it is. Do you see other DHs behaving like this?

CecilyP · 25/07/2015 14:18

It is the double standard of it that strikes me too. He can be as angry as he likes, can shout and swear like a trooper but the minute you retaliate ever so slightly and say he behaved like a prick, oh boy, does he make you suffer for it. Meanwhile you appease him at every turn so he never has to deal with the consequences of his dreadful childish behaviour.

I said it isn't acceptable if it makes me feel terrible and he replied in a sarcastic tone that he was sorry for getting frustrated and disturbing 'your lovely life'.

But he isn't remotely sorry, and why shouldn't you have a lovely life? He certainly sounds as he has a lovely life being able to behave exactly as he likes whenever he likes while you continue to be so nice and keep apologising when you have nothing to apologise for.

I don't necessarily think the behaviour has escalated because he is jealous of your DS. It is more that when you had no children, you could have left more easily so he had to rein it in a bit. Now your life is so tied up with his and his family's, he is free to behave as badly he wants.

Are you sure your friends know the full extent of his anger and manipulation, or do you minimise it slightly for them? Do they know him but not really see this side of him (because he would not behave this way in from of them)?

Do you have any of your own family who you could turn to? If not, I would second getting some advice from Women's Aid. You really can't go on like this.

Topseyt · 25/07/2015 14:31

You should leave without telling him if you can.

You could buy a second copy of the Lundy Bancroft book and leave it behind as a parting shot.

Fluffycloudland77 · 25/07/2015 15:04

I wouldn't let a man know I was leaving. I would go and leave a note.

You don't owe him an explanation, he hasn't treated you well.

Sidalee7 · 25/07/2015 16:03

I had a long term relationship with a guy like this.
Do not pander to him. I spent years trying to - and feeling nervous in case he went into one of his moods and it was awful.

When I fell out of love with him I didn't care anymore and stopped - his moods changed for the better but unfortunately it was too little, too late.

Easier said than done, but assert yourself and make it clear his behaviour is unacceptable. Good luck!

ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 25/07/2015 16:20

Thank you sidalee - I have got to that point, just feel so numb and I don't really care anymore-it doesn't hurt, it just makes me think I need to get out.

As someone suggested I should ring women's aid, I did and they said there are many red flags from the very short conversation I had and she confirmed it was psychological and emotional abuse and said I was in a domestic violence relationship. It was quite a blow to hear domestic violence as that is what you associate with violence.

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musicalbingo · 25/07/2015 16:43

I imagine that was hard but it is useful to hear professionals reiterating your situation is not right or normal.

You don't need to do it all immediately but its probably worth talking to them again about next steps once you have had some time to process everything.

Hezaire · 25/07/2015 16:47

Have you read the chimp paradox? The chimp is in charge of him.
As for solutions, I have none sadly. Hmm

ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 25/07/2015 16:48

DH has read the chimp paradox I think. What is it about and why relevant?

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musicalbingo · 25/07/2015 16:48

Also I know you have been with him a long time and feel you should explain/discuss it but please listen to others who have advised you not to tell him you are leaving.
You can explain and discuss it all once you have (safely) left. Do not underestimate the situation, you are not dealing with a normal /rational person

ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 25/07/2015 16:50

How about if I say we need space from each other - and then just not go back?

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AdeleDazeem · 25/07/2015 16:53

Your DM fled an abusive childhood into the arms of an abusive husband. Their DD (you) is now married to an abusive husband. There's a crystal clear pattern right there.

madhouseprice12 · 25/07/2015 16:55

OP "I know the traffic situation seems minor, but it is just to illustrate. It makes my stomach feel tight and puts me on edge"

doesn't seem minor at all. You are describing a horrible man who needs to change. He needs to get help - not relationship counselling but anger stuff.

AnyFucker · 25/07/2015 16:57

this is what my father was like when I was growing up

now in his seventies and still the same...still with my mother who carries on trying to manage his moods and verbal abuse of her and anything that doesn't go exactly his way

I have minimal contact with both of them even though they live only a few miles away. Him because I have nothing to say to him and her because I lost respect for her a long time ago for putting her relationship with an inadequate man before the emotional safety of her children

you might want to think about that

pickingstrawberries · 25/07/2015 16:58

I endorse what everyone else is saying but would also like to politely point out that if he wants access to his children unsupervised, and doesn't have a criminal record (and in fact even if he does) he will be granted that.

I don't LIKE it, but be aware.

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