To think MN is getting nastier?

[MaggieJoyBlunt]

So far this week we've had giving birth referred to as 'calving' (in the context of women having children while young). Someone loved that one so much they immediately commented on what a great expression it was and repeated it.

We've had someone propose that Prince Phillip should be 'humanely destroyed'. swiftly followed up by a similar suggestion about taking him out to a barn or a shed or some such and shooting him.

We've had a thread about the death of a convicted murdered where several posters queued up to tell us they were, smiling or "laughing gleefully" or simply to post "lol" as a one word comment. (Okay she was a vicious killer and will not be much missed, but really?)

Add to all of that the Budget threads where in the midst of people worrying and calculating the cut to their household budget, other people came to gloat and make helpful observations such as "If you can't afford DC, don't have them."

MN didn't used to be nasty. Vigorous, challenging etc; But not nasty.

What's going on around here?

I agree baddz but I must say I think some of that was a reaction against the 'heartless Tory cunt' posts that had been doing the rounds for some time.

I didn't see people happy about the suffering of sroungers. They agreed with the policies. Nastiness on both sides of that political argument I'm afraid.

It was the virtual equivalent of ids doing his happy dance.
Utterly nauseating.
I agree it did get personal...name calling etc but the fact is children are going to go hungry. And be cold, and not have adequate clothing due to this budget. Children of people in work. Madness.
I imagine if you were one of those people you might swear too?

I can't agree that people on a forum like mumsnet can only give their view on the budget if it's favourable to you Baddz but can see why you were upset by it.

But the supporters countered those arguments so it was a political debate. And we all know how nasty they become on MN, with a lack of tolerance or real debate from either side.

God that thread in SN chat is hideous. Chipped, you poor thing.

I must admit, I would never ever come onto MN wanting support now - I've read some horrific threads with clearly vulnerable OPs being flamed to hell and back.

I did post once, wanting support and a shoulder to cry on, about something which upset me greatly - and was basically told I was being stupid, and had no right to feel that way. I ended up practically having to give my life story, as well, in response to some quite hectoring questions. It was in chat, so thank god has gone to the place of the half eaten biscuits now

You do see posters getting some amazing support on here - but it's such a minefield, and it's so unpredictable.

i took the easy option and hid the threads

The budget/food bank threads are hideous too. In fact, I do agree with OP - I do think MN has got nastier.

It wasnt their views I objected to.
It was the gleeful and hateful way they were expressed to people who are going to really suffer.

Chipped, that was really awful to read. Has the poster giving you a hard time been suspended/banned?

Sn has gone weird.
It used to be great (I'm going back a few years though)

Badz, I only read the beginning of that thread and it seemed fairly civilised. Who was gloating and jeering at unfortunate posters then? (Am not a Tory btw, I just find the left much more abusive and nasty than the right on here.)

Yes, MN was always known for its fantastic SN support. Awful to read that thread.

That particular poster seems to get away with it, sadly.
Sn is very cliquey now.
I avoid it.

There were several threads mrsr...I hid them in the end :(

Shame. I wonder if there was a reprimand.

There was gloating aplenty from a couple of posters further into the thread. It really wasn't nice at all. Telling people they shouldn't be 'sitting on their arses with their 50" tvs and 2 cars and then moaning about the budget' was heartless and wrong and so far from the truth for an awful lot of people.

Probably for the best Badz. There is a loud minority on here that bear no relation to anyone I've met in RL!!!

Oh dear, YouTheCat, how disappointing.

Yeah. I try and keep that in mind!
Such a shame though...mn is such a source of support and help to people who need it.
I got a royal flaming twice (one of which included wishing my children dead)
And I left for a while.
Maybe I need to again for a bit? :(

Please tell me that post was deleted Baddz?

No Badzz, stay! Being posters on here, we will always be vulnerable to angry unpleasant individuals who type such things. The more the sane, funny, and kind people stay, they more we drown that kind of nastiness out. I would be enraged to read that directed at anyone but I guess that's what they want.
Did you report?

There's a foul post doing the rounds on chat.

Led by one poster who is ALWAYS present when there's a scrap.

Funny, that.

We can't let the vile people win.

I did.
It was years ago.
But I still remember how sick it made me feel and how many people supported the poster that said it.
Tbh I hadn't read the op properly and I suppose my post did sound flippant, but I didn't mean it to be. I re read the op and posted again offering advice but by then flying monkeys had descended.
Hey ho.
Taught me a lesson!...I always read ops two or three times now! :)