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To wonder why my mother is so racist?

129 replies

Petridish · 09/07/2015 20:26

To summarise:-

"A touch of the tar brush there"

"He was coffee coloured"

"A bit tinted"

"It would be awful if someone in the Royal Family married a black"

I could go on... She also disapproves of "Muslims" coming to the UK and leeching of the benefit system.

The irony is that she is very PC about discrimination against those with disabilities - mainly because my late sister was disabled.

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BullshitS70 · 09/07/2015 20:27

do you call her on it?

Luckyluc · 09/07/2015 20:30

She probably doesn't think she is racist because nobody has told her

annandale · 09/07/2015 20:31

Sorry, couldn't help sniggering, she sounds like an episode of Love Thy Neighbour circa 1971 or one of my awful 40s novels.

I think just keep telling her she sounds as if they dug her up from 40 years ago.

BullshitS70 · 09/07/2015 20:31

exactly what I was thinking

Petridish · 09/07/2015 20:33

I've called her on it and told her she is racist, but it makes no difference.

Years ago, I had a boyfriend who was black and she was horrified.

I can tell she is bigoted until I am at the point of despair, but she won't change.

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Petridish · 09/07/2015 20:36

To reiterate, if anyone uses a term that is derogatory towards anyone with a disability, she throws a fit and says she is "sensitive" - she screamed at me, when I was a child, for calling someone an "idiot". At the time, I did not realise that this word was offensive.

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SoreArms · 09/07/2015 20:36

Is she my mum? Are we long lost sisters?!!! Depressing, isn't it? Sad

annandale · 09/07/2015 20:37

You can't really change her. My mother has a horrific prejudice about disability, to the point where I think if any of her children had presented her with a grandchild with a disability, she would have had genuine difficulty loving the child Sad In fact, one has been diagnosed with autism as an adult, and she switches between saying she doesn't believe it and dwelling on it with a kind of fascinated horror. Thing is, she's over 80 now and the chances of her changing her views are minimal. Don't despair, just tell her you find those views unacceptable and change the subject if you can't stand it any more.

Petridish · 09/07/2015 20:38

Sorearms and Annendale - how horrible and sad :(

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ilovesooty · 09/07/2015 20:39

Do you have children? If so, does she talk like this around them?

Altinkum · 09/07/2015 20:40

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EthelDurant123 · 09/07/2015 20:41

My uncle married a Chinese woman and my brother is in a relationship with a mixed race woman. Both relationships were hard to swallow by my parents and wider family. There's tolerance now, but not affection. Its a generational thing. I pull DM up on it a lot but she never changes.

GrinAndTonic · 09/07/2015 20:42

We must be related. My mum goes on and on about Muslims, aboriginals (indigenous Australians), immigrants, refugees, asylum seekers, black people, Asian people etc
Ive given up telling her how racist and bigoted she is. It's embarrassing though.

NoMontagues · 09/07/2015 20:42

My mother is similar. I can't bring myself to repeat some of the things she says.

No one is safe though. My 4mo nephew's father is from an Asian country. Looking at a photo of the baby the other day, my mum remarked "ooh, he looks very ching Chong in that one doesn't he?"

Shock FOR FUCKS SAKE MOTHER THAT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE TERM

Peacheykeen · 09/07/2015 20:43

How strange I know someone who goes nuts if someone says the R word or any disablist slur but has no qualms about saying p*I this p*I that her daughter is severely disabled perhaps with your mother it's a generation thing.

ilovesooty · 09/07/2015 20:47

Its a generation thing, as much as I hate to say it

My mother is 95 and has never talked like that. My sister is a lot more racist than my mother has ever been.

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WestEast · 09/07/2015 20:49

DP's mum cannot understand why I think Idris Elba is attractive what with him being black and me being white. It's just totally confuses her. I honestly pity her.

Pumpkinpositive · 09/07/2015 20:51

I shocked myself years ago, when back in the day when I was new to online communication, I was posting an online forum with someone I had "known" for a while online.

In the context of the chat, it emerged she was black. I that realised I was surprised. My "norm" was white, and I never moved from that assumption unless explicity told.

My default position was to assume that everyone I chatted on online was white.

It's not blatant discrimination or prejudice but I realised that my initial instinct was to assume something that would be totally ridiculous if I sat and thought about it.

Now, of course, I assume that everyone I chat to online is a sweaty, haired palmed 54 year old man still living with his mum and 16 cats. Grin

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Pumpkinpositive · 09/07/2015 20:52

Not that my musings are in any way relevant to your mum, OP. Blush

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Petridish · 09/07/2015 20:53

Ilovesooty - no, she hasn't said anything in front of my child but, if she did, she would regret it and I would be furious AngryAngryAngry

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Pumpkinpositive · 09/07/2015 20:56

The irony is that she is very PC about discrimination against those with disabilities - mainly because my late sister was disabled.

Your sister's disability would have impacted your mum in a very real and visceral way, OP. She may be hyper tuned into disability because she saw prejudice and difficulties your sister experienced?

She doesn't have that lived experience with race though - perhaps if you had married the ex boyfriend and had mixed race kids with him, she would have championed ethnic minority groups because she had a vested interest in making sure her grandchildren were not subject to discrimination?

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