To think today's Royal Christening is deliberate mind-fuckery timewarpery?

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It's all so ... 1948? ... mummy pushing the heirloom pram, George's historical fancy dress outfit, the Norland Nanny in her starched uniform, the crown jewels font shipped in from the Tower, the fawning sycophantic voice-over on the BBC helpfully sharing with the little people the details of George's internal monologue ... It still is 2015 is it? Haaaaaalp!!!!! I thought these were the new wave modern Royals?

Poppy I love that Sunday Best look for very young, but that style of clothes can be hard to find

DS is wearing a Portuguese outfit on my profile, he soon grew out of letting me dress him up

Yes indeed, why ban a book if the UK is such a model of democracy? No-one is forced to buy it.

The Norland nanny uniform is a triumph of ugliness - I think the designers, presumably many moons ago, must have got together and said, "Righto, now, the main things about this uniform is that no matter how utterly gorgeous a nanny may be, this outfit must render her so undesirable that the father of the family will never ever see her as, you know, an actual female." And voila - the Norland uniform was born!

But I am quite intrigued about why Pippa and Kate and her mum all wore cream. The Daily Wail (in its usual let's pit the women against each other style) says it was Pippa trying to upstage K but they all seem very close and I'm sure it was all agreed and carefully planned beforehand but quite strange to all wear cream. Maybe for the photos - a sort of artistic choice? Intriguing...

Don't be so hateful OP!!

Wendy Berry's book was banned because it was written despite a court injunction.

She fled the country to avoid going to prison for contempt of court.

My in-laws went to watch this yesterday; this is the MIL who for 17yrs has kicked off if there's been a whiff of us not seeing her on Xmas Day every year, yet for the past 3 years has binned us off (yaaay!) to go watch the RF go into church in Xmas Day

There's not so queer as folk...

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1369335/Prince-will-not-sue-housekeeper-who-betrayed-secrets.html

That's the story about the injunction. An injunction was taken out against her in 1995 effectively banning publication in this country. It was published abroad and she went on the run for 5 years because she could have been jailed. Charles was also entitled to recover any profits she made.

Then her youngest son got Leukemia and so she returned to the UK and Charles said because of the circumstances he'd let it go. (And a messy court case might not have been in his interests anyway).

I thought Prince Charles gallantly decided not to take her to court, despite her 'treachery'.

Ah you beat me to it Dearleader

Just been googling the Berry book. What a bizarre case. Charles obtained an injunction to ban her from publishing anywhere in the world. Barricade Books in the US ignored this, and published it in 1995. Then Charles took a further injunction to entitle him to claim all international royalties from the book.

Seems rather feudal to me.

Down - I've just looked it up. He took 6 weeks and has gone back to his training apparently. We'll all know when he does a proper days work won't we?

Charles feudal ? Perish the thought!

I've got Kitty Kelly's book on the royals, also banned in Uk the late 90s if anyone's interested?
or should that be ?

I saw a photo on FB yesterday of a friend of a friends babys christening and the Mother wore tight, white, ripped jeans. They were also at least 2 sizes too small. Maybe Kate should have worn something like that to bring the whole thing up to date?

I have no idea if it was a coded message or not. I'm just repeating what other people have suggested. And it's widely known that Diana would manipulate the press and other forms of communication to her own ends so it's not that great a leap to imagine she might do that.

For example, one of her closest friends, Rosa Monckton insists that the very public relationship with Dodi was purely done in that manner to make Hasnat Khan jealous. I think it is a possibility.

I have the Kitty Kelly book too.

I love the style of clothes they dress George in on special days (I do it too!) but I just thought apeing what William wore 30 years ago was really odd and must have involved a lengthy search. That seems a very odd thing to do and really makes me wonder about KM. Does she literally have nothing else to do or is this sort of parading and putting on a show of lineage really important to her. I found it a bit disturbing.

The actual outfit I thought was adorable though.

The Middleton women all in cream is all part of the peculiar artifice of it all. All for show. No spontaneous thought or action.

I had the KK book too. Lent it to my db's mad partner and she lost it
Fourteen years it's been. Now xsil so it's gone. I read it once.

I think Kate is really keen to show the Royal family she is doing things 'their way' and is not going to rock the boat.

The other thing I thought might be a factor was Diana. They seem to have centred a lot of the christening on her; it's in the church Diana was christened in, as close to her birthday as possible with one of her nieces as Godmother. Presumably Diana chose the outfit for William so another nod to her.

I remember even when William wore that in the 80s people thought it was stuffy and old fashioned so it's extremely so now.

'Their way' has been changing over the years and becoming more modern though - esp. the younger ones. KM seems determined to take things backwards - certainly seems to favour the old-style royal 'them and us' approach.

Their branding makes them look old out of touch and faintly ridiculous. Get thee to next and buy your son a dinosaur tshirt! They need to sack the stylist and get Vicky Beckham in to do it!

Being serious though, in these times, when the poorest in the country are facing further cuts and people in Greece (amongst other places) are worrying about how to feed their children, this ostentatious display of privilege demonstrates how very out of touch they are.

Puts me in mind of when Diana died and the queen cba to show her face for days - they are seriously misreading the mood of the people. We'll indulge this shit when times are good and we are feeling well off, but when times are tough, it's just bloody annoying.

And even if that Norland nanny uniform is the norm, nothing quite screams 'servant, know your place' like that outfit.

I think KM is very conscious that she doesn't quite have the pedigree that would be associated with a PoW. And she tries to out royal the royals to cement her position. But I agree she seems detached from the public.

I'd want to detach from anyone who picked my choices and looks apart and slagged off my mother to be honest.

OurDearLeader - spot on.