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to wonder what benefits will get the chop from the £12 billion of cuts?

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steiner8 · 21/06/2015 18:22

Just that really. I'm wondering which benefits are going to go or be significantly cut. Anyone have any idea?

OP posts:
ilovechristmas1 · 22/06/2015 17:50

next you will be saying the blind are being entitled having an assistant dog

FanFuckingTastic · 22/06/2015 17:56

Cat charities are overwhelmed with adoptees already, they'd go under if people on benefits had to give them up.

I recently got two rescue cats, I am very lonely and it was affecting my mental health. I don't get out much due to disability, so having my cats at home has really benefitted me.

They don't cost me much, I have insurance to cover unexpected illness/accident, and I use a local vets that are particularly for low income pet owners, they provide basic care schemes for a monthly cost too, so flea and worming, claw trims etc. Routine care and insurance for anything else is less than £20 a month. Food is £20 and does about 80 days for a single cat (so monthly about £6).

Being on disability benefits doesn't mean I'll never work again, in fact that is something I am working on now with support, getting an education that will allow me to work independently as I'll likely never be able to work for anybody again. I'm glad I don't have to be miserable/struggling during the process, simply because I am on benefits.

Alfieisnoisy · 22/06/2015 17:58

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ghostspirit · 22/06/2015 18:00

right im going to rehome my dog. hes 11 year old staff so probably cant get him rehomed. because hes a staff will get put to sleep. but one less mouth to feed. kids will be fine im sure. sell my tv for say 30.00. sell the kids gagets because they are not allowed them. plus it might pay for few days food shop. is gas a need or luxery? im thinking could boil a kettle to wash with. wear a jumper have blankets in winter so no need for heating? no laptop/internet kids can do their home work at libary with the 15 min slot they give sure they will get loads done in 15 mins. could get them shoes 2 sizes to big so they last longer.

sod it im gonna buy a tent and put it in the park.sorted no rent,no internet etc and dig a hole in the ground for the loo.

Alfieisnoisy · 22/06/2015 18:01

Seriously I don't think I can take much more.

I am hating other people more and more.

Justanotherlurker · 22/06/2015 18:01

Of course the alleged unemployment figures are skewed by the claimants undergoing sanctions and Workfair programes

Can't find anything to back that up, did find this on the ONS website though.

The level of unemployment is not calculated from the number of people on out-of-work benefits so sanctions or the actions of job centres will not affect it

ghostspirit · 22/06/2015 18:09

alfie ((hugs)) dont let comments/people get to you. its really not worth it. you do your best for you and your child. some people dont think about the effect things have on children.

Dawndonnaagain · 22/06/2015 18:17

TTWK. My nearest library is 15 miles away. My nearest supermarket is 12 miles away. Dh is severely disabled and it costs me £30.00 per hour to get care for him, so strangely, I interenet shop. I know, it makes me so entitled doesn't it...

Mistigri · 22/06/2015 18:19

I honestly think you lot are wasting your time arguing with someone who doesn't think that Internet access is a necessity for people on benefits. None so blind as those who will not see etc

Quite apart from the impact on children's education, it is almost impossible to apply for jobs or benefits without internet access.

ilovesooty · 22/06/2015 18:25

I said the government Work Programme not Workfair (sic)

I wouldn't trust the ONS figures either.

ilovesooty · 22/06/2015 18:32

m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7103648

OnlyLovers · 22/06/2015 18:38

Internet is great but it's not a life necessity.

You're right, it's not worth arguing with that level of wilful ignorance/plain stupidity (delete as you think fit; I can't quite decide).

Fluffy40 · 22/06/2015 18:43

They need to cut benefits to pay for the major repairs in Parliament. Bastards.

CattyCatCat · 22/06/2015 18:45

Alfie, believe that the majority of people in this country don't want you to suffer, I'm sorry things are so hard for you. It's very unfortunate that the Tories have got back in and this time unfettered. I think there are vast swathes of the population who understand your struggle and strongly disagree with proposed cuts Flowers. You are not on your own, although i appreciate that it must feel like it in the face of so much bitterness in the press at the moment.

Justanotherlurker · 22/06/2015 18:48

Yeah, I was trying to type on the phone, still the same applies.

I'm sure you don't rely on the ONS figures and never cite them, that is of course until they confirm your beliefs I'm sure.

You obviously don't like it but unemployment is down, now underemployment is something we need to look into, but that's a convaluted mess, the government gives tax breaks to companies so that niche employment is made and everyone screams about 'boys network' etc

I'm in the camp that we do need a cap for those capable of work (not ATOS capable) and we somehow need to force employers to pay better wages, but even that has issues because with a ready influx of cheap labour available from the EU it will suppress wages, also if a company is forced by the government to raise wages above a certain threshold then the price of automation is well within reach.

CattyCatCat · 22/06/2015 18:49

And to be honest, even those who voted Tory did not necessarily vote for the cuts that will happen. The Tories did not reveal where, exactly, they would cut.

windchime · 22/06/2015 18:57

When I was growing up, my very poor parents had a small family allowance payment (£1.50 per child in 1975), but tax credits did not exist. When did we expect the country to pay for us to have children?

GiddyOnZackHunt · 22/06/2015 19:02

wind the relative cost of housing was far, far lower. People led very different lives in the 70s. It really is pointless to compare the eras. So many things have changed.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 22/06/2015 19:04

Alfie Flowers do try not to take it all personally. A minority of people chose this government. Most people didn't vote for this.

HelenaDove · 22/06/2015 19:07

windchime its not just a different decade.....its a different century.

Justanotherlurker · 22/06/2015 19:08

Ah, a not so prominent #boycottwelfare slactavist has just found out that stats are fudged and yet bases a lot of his arguments on fudged stats all the time for historical benchmarks, is used as an argument against, I think you have proven my point, however I do follow him on Twitter and do support his cause.

As you don't believe in stats, I may as well mention that 88% of voters voted for austerity, the only people who didn't have any real austerity measures where the greens but if you saw the costings and stats would have shown you that it was nothing more than (not very) populist thinking.

ghostspirit · 22/06/2015 19:17

i thought there was family allowence back in the day im not sure though. i have 7 siblings. my mum worked in a bakers and my dad was a labouror. lived in council house that got bought. i dont know how they managed. anyway that was then this is now, and now is a madness

Alfieisnoisy · 22/06/2015 19:33

Calming down a bit now. Watching my DS with our oldest cat who has really been wonderful in helping him communicate and understand stuff. He is sat with her snuggled up to him and she is purring. He is loving it.

Got upset at the thought anyone would be heartless enough to think my son shouldn't have his cats. He has enough problems already without removing the pets he so loves. The fact that anyone can think this is "entitled" beggars belief and shows me how far we have fallen as a society, that we can begrudge a disabled child enough support to ensure much loved pets can remain with them.

We didn't begrudge Ivan Cameron his DLA did we?

Well I have far less than the Cameron's have and I don't see why my son should not have support too.

I worked for over thirty years before needing any benefits, I plan to work many more once things are more settled for my son. At the moment they are not, largely because the powers that be have cut so much support in schools etc. I am need to be available....it caused no end of issues in my previous job.

TheBreeze · 22/06/2015 19:43

OPs whipping up a storm between this and her/his other thread(s).

woolythoughts · 22/06/2015 21:08

I wish there was a way to quote on this site...I'm 39 to put this into age group

I grew up in Liverpool - a working class labour voter household. I didnt go on a foreign holiday as a kid - we couldnt afford it. We had a family ( and by family I mean grand parents owned and four sets of families used it) caravan in rural north wales sited on a field and not a park as such.

The school I went to had 5 remedial streams and one normal.

I was hated in school by everyone because I had the audacity to want to do well. I was ridiculed for getting good grades but I studied my ass off. I took course books home (and stole the answer books because the books I took were beyond the level being taught) and made sure I learnt because I saw learning as the way out of a shit hole existance.

All that needs is the requirement to not NEED to be popular. You dont have to be miss I am perfect with 40 friends and a member of a gang because 20 years later - no one of that gang will remember you.

For some reason in the UK, being popular means aiming low - why? I have lived elsewhere and ambition is admired not laughed at. Maybe that is what is wrong with the UK - negativity.