to ask, why does David Walliams act so camp?

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is it part of his image or something?

I just dont get it.

I have a relation whose partner worked for the BBC and said Walliams is a gay man and not a particularly nice one.

So MrsSheRa, despite the fact that he says he's straight and had only ever had long term relationships with women, a wife and a son - your relatives partner knows better?

As I said earlier in the thread, I've met him a few times too in a professional capacity and always found him friendly. I'm not claiming I 'know' him either but it's just as good as a snapshot of someone else's whole entire life and personality isn't it?

I really really don't understand why on earth people would think he would stay in the closet if he were in fact gay? It just doesn't make sense.

On these threads on MN's people always seem to delight in thing us someone famous is a horrible person because they passed then in a corridor or whatever and they didn't smile or something equally vague. I always want to give them the benefit of the doubt really.

Not sure why, but I suppose he just likes to keep people guessing. It works!

It's just what he said harry, all I know for sure is that the showbiz world is a strange one.

Well now what a charming thread!!

Packed full of comments about DW such as "vile" "creepy" "dead behind the eyes" And allowed to stand - well, for what reason HQ?? could it be hypocrisy on your part?

I thought saying negative things about celebrities was no longer allowed on Mumsnet (see the deletion of my Lily Allen thread).

I await HQ's comments Apple. I have reported my post.

I used to think 'camp' behaviour was an act. Then in that humbling way parenting often does, I gave birth to my son who is and always has been very camp, since he was a toddler. He is not putting on an act, it's who he is. I don't know if he is gay yet though it wouldn't surprise me (he's still at primary school). He reminds me of David Walliams a bit actually, he enjoys pushing social boundaries because he finds people's reactions funny, he can be ascerbically witty like Lily Savage too. He is very funny. I do wish sometimes that he was kinder though. He'll be some kind of creative person or comedian I'm sure. Please don't assume people are 'turning it on' when they act camp.

I don't see that it matters. That's the persona he chooses to project. I don't believe for one moment that his sexuality is anything different from what he claims it to be. But the whole thing is totally his business, not mine.

I think its the mixed signals that people feel uncomfortable with. Behind the scenes interviews on BGT he is quiet, pleasant , funny and not very camp at all. But his eyes are .. wary. I feel that what you see is not what you get in either persona and no-one gets behind either facade. Maybe thats what people find uncomfortable. When he is being 'outrageous', again if you watch closely the eyes seem to be assessing reactions rather than showing genuine warmth or a genuine persona. I think a lot of comedians have a frontof house 'persona' that doesnt match their real self its just that its more obvious in his case.

Love the second hand information references. Not saying they aren't true, but people calling him vile because you know someone who knows someone who told them something that they told you

Mintyy a poster alluded to him being 'savillesque' or words to that effect earlier on which I think is really out or order.

I don't get people's bile with this I really don't.

moly - I'm not calling him vile but like I said my SIL's cousin dated him very briefly and she wasn't impressed as he appeared to be cheating on her…

if she wanted to sell her story she could be like that and do a kiss and tell but she has a valid acting career (parents are also actors) and she was just disappointed that she'd flown out to California and been duped. Luckily he paid for the flight.

Personally I'm not sure what to make of him… not that it's my business anyway!

He's very media savvy, probably bi rather than gay and though his humour isn't my cup of tea he's a talented children's author and the swim for charity was amazing.

He does have a touch of smarm but he also comes across strangely as quite a nice guy, able to banter with Simon Cowell on BGT.

I just think being camp is not a sin.

It's no a sin, or sinister. I guess DW doesn't have anything to offer MN as a brand, or can be arsed to get slurs like the JS thing deleted, unlike the subjects of other threads that have the lifespan of a fart in a hurricane.

My husband met him and said he's not camp at all its a bit act cos he's extremely shy

Goodness I hope some of these people don't do jury service. " Yes your honour, the accused is guilty, he is sexually ambiguous, has shifty eyes and my neighbour's aunty's dog barked at him, and he's never wrong".

Goodness I hope some of these people don't do jury service. " Yes your honour, the accused is guilty, he is sexually ambiguous, has shifty eyes and my neighbour's aunty's dog barked at him, and he's never wrong". grin

I don't get it. The legal burden of proof for most criminal cases is "beyond a reasonable doubt". It's the highest possible standard because the consequences are so dire (loss of life and liberty). We don't apply this standard anywhere else in our lives because it isn't necessary. You only found circumstantial evidence of an affair but - oh well - only 75% sure!Best ignore it. Yeah, I don't need evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a shifty bugger because this isn't court.

When did MN become against trusting your instincts again?

Anyway, most attention seeking comedians seem a bit off to me. Like the "laughs" comes from deep insecurity and self loathing and it's only a facade. Human beings are pretty good at spotting insincerity. DW is so fake he practically in the bloody uncanny valley.

Btw, Graham Norton and Alan Carr are both camp and neither are creepy or unpleasant seeming. So is Gok Wan and about a million other celebrities. Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen is camp and straight. Not creepy at all. He's not creepy because he's camp. He's creepy because he's creepy.

I think Alan Carr is very creepy.

I suppose Williams acts camp because it has worked for him in carreer terms. But the Thames swim really launched his career big time

I cant tell if he is really tallented or not. Can you?

Sorry I meant WALLIAMS which seems a tad pretentious.

Proper eery like. Wouldn't employ him.

WALLIAMS is a tad pretentious as a name? He name is Williams but had to change it for equity reasons. I don't see what's pretentious about that?