Parent and child spaces - would you sign this petition?

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A woman has set up a petition for safeguarding parent and parking spaces for under 5s here

Singsongsung - some people agree with you, some don't. But banging on and on about it is tedious.

zeezeek: To be honest, if someone with a child is getting that stressed about a bloody parking space then they need to really grow up, get a grip and a reality check. Alternatively, if someone is such a delicate snowflake that they think they are going to get stressed over something so insignificant then should these people actually have children

Wow, you really are a nasty peice of work.
Because some mums here openly admit they find shopping with a young child stressful at times- you DARE lower the argument to questioning their general ability as parents and if they should have a child?

Your points are simplistic, aggressive and arrogant - you're really not helping the other side against P&C spaces. Mums in support of the spaces are just trying to explain that we do- shock horror- sometimes find the shopping/parking/loading experience with a young DC stressful at times- and really appreciate any help by way of wider spaces- some shops provide. Thats it. Its highly unlikely you have never experienced stress/anxiety in situations with your DC (if not wow- gold medal of parenting alert) - so please don't judge other mums, its just nasty.

Yes, Sing it is helpful. But not necessary.
Whereas it might be both helpful and necessary for people who have various disabilities that do not qualify them for a BB to have an easily accessible space near the entrance to the store,
A temporary bit of mild inconvenience for a parent who has to lift a baby out of a car seat versus a real and measurable difference in terms of pain for someone who has to live with a debilitating condition for a lifetime.
It's a no-brainer.

I have repeatedly said, I'm all for temporary disabled badges. I broke my foot a few years ago and really struggled getting around (nasty break). A temporary disabled badge would have been brilliant.

And yes, you should take it up with Tesco because it's their car park and they are in a position to change it!

Also a lack of understanding that the most needy and vunerable don't have the ability to campaign, carers if they have them don't have the time or energy and other people don't care.

All it needs is the p&c spaces in the far corner of the car park- with a safe walkway and trolley park and the whole problem is solved. People who really want a wider space would use them and they wouldn't be desirable to anyone else. Win win.

Soldier- and how would that be managed then? Disabled badges exist to determine those who have a disability and therefore need parking close to the building. Are you proposing another sort of badge or just a free for all for anyone with a professed need to use p&c spaces?

Zazzie- if those on here who have argued against p&c spaces so vehemently instead argued FOR their needs to be met to the right people (ie Tesco) it'd be a start would it not?

I must add that I'm sure the "most needy and vulnerable" would have disabled badges!

I'd be happy with a free for all.

Tesco don't care sing
They don't give a shiny shit who parks where
They don't give a shiny shit if your gets damaged in the car park
There are signs up telling you that they don't give a shiny shit

I must add that I'm sure the "most needy and vulnerable" would have disabled badges! Not necessarily, they're much harder to get now, as PPs have explained.

Urgh your post 22:35 is just being goady now

The MOST needy or vulnerable? Most?? My idea of most needy obviously differs from yours then. I would imagine the most needy to be those with permanent disabilities to be honest, and therefore eligible for blue badges.

No I know teenagers with severe learning difficulties and autism and who are very vunerable who do not have one.

Good night to anyone remotely sensible.
Only 322 people have signed that petition BTW

Zazzie, but those conditions aren't ones that affect mobility though are they? Don't get me wrong, I entirely appreciate that those conditions impact on such situations as supermarket shopping but not in a way which would render a wider parking space more helpful.

Ds who is profoundly disabled but can walk (in front of a car if I didn't hold onto him) has no automatic entitlement to one.

And ds often attacks me when I'm getting him in and out of the car. Hence the need for a wider space.

Again, I imagine that the fact that he can walk is the reason why he doesn't get one. BBs are only about mobility surely?

Sorry Zazzie, you may have already said this but how old is your ds?

He's 8.

You see, personally, I wouldn't have an issue with a parent with a child of 8 parking in a parent and child space anyway. At 8 my eldest daughter still needed a bit of help doing up her seatbelt and being able to open the door wide was a massive advantage. I would certainly never roll my eyes at a parent with an 8 year old using a p&c space. My big issue is people with no children of any age using them to avoid scratching their precious car etc etc as already discussed.

What about an 18 year old with similar understanding and behaviour? The problem with settimg age limits is it means the lives of very vunerable people are made harder.