Parent and child spaces - would you sign this petition?

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A woman has set up a petition for safeguarding parent and parking spaces for under 5s here

Chuffin, the nearest supermarket to my house is around 15 miles away. "Suck it up"- lovely.

Calm down Sing is there a bigger issue we are unaware of?

Sirzy- the criteria aren't mine! They're called parent and child spaces! The clue's kind of in the title isn't it??

I feel similarly pissed off about those who park in disabled spaces with no claim don't worry. In fact it irritates the life out of me when my mum places her badge then walks around the supermarket without difficulty....

Flipping heck. People without blue badges are not entitled to park in disabled bays. Your mother is totally entitled to park in disabled spaces just as your child under five allows you to park in parent and child spaces. What a nasty comment.

However a baby who can't walk and requires pushing around a supermarket isn't actually that different if you base your assessment on physical abilities alone.

Last I looked babies are pretty light and very portable so yes it differs a lot!

Again purple, you don't know, have never met my mum. You have no idea.

To those that can't survive without P&C spaces - what do you do in normal, none supermarket car parks? Or do you never visit anywhere other than the supermarket?

I don't get the P&C angst at all. Babies are portable, it's only in the last few years parents insist on carrying them in car seats that there seems to be a problem.

I would quite happily get rid of them, as it's no longer a perk, just an annoyance about the rules and regs.

It's not, and never will be on a par with BB spaces. Having a child isn't a disability. Yes it makes your life harder, but seriously kids make every aspect of life harder. Perhaps people should consider these issues before having kids or getting driving licences

Yes. Suck it up.

You aren't entitled to a space any more than the rest of us are. If there isn't a space available then go elsewhere. It's what everyone else has to Do.

Of course, and I do. I don't have a personal space with my name on it. I simply prefer to use one of the 8 designated p&c spaces provided as it helps me enormously when I go to supermarkets with my young child. It makes life easier. It's a simple as that. At times, in very snug spaces, you do have to give up and go home. That makes life harder. There are lots of non p&c spaces for those without children- at my supermarket many of them are very closely situated near the p&c ones.
I don't think I've ever known such aggression about a small thing that makes a huge difference to mums. It beggars belief really, on MN of all places!!

Only on MN would there be so much angst about parking spaces.

I suppose the question is, do p&c spaces negatively impact any of you? Does their existence in any way make your life harder? More challenging? No? Thought not. Then why begrudge those who benefit from them??

I've never met you but the criteria for using a p and c space is having a small child in the car. What I know about your mother is she has a blue badge. The criteria for parking in a disabled space is having a blue badge. Where's the issue?

I don't believe myself to be on a par with the disabled (what a strange sentiment that is). However a baby who can't walk and requires pushing around a supermarket isn't actually that different if you base your assessment on physical abilities alone.

Did you really just write that!?!? Fucking hell, sorry but the are just no words to describe how unreasonable and ridiculous you are!

Who is doing any begrudging though? If there's one to use, use it, if there isn't then oh dear what a shame never mind. That's it.

Indeed purple- hence she parks in it. She is entitled to. My opinion on her need doesn't matter one jot. Your opinion on my need to park in p&c spaces similarly doesn't matter one jot.

I don't believe myself to be on a par with the disabled (what a strange sentiment that is). However a baby who can't walk and requires pushing around a supermarket isn't actually that different if you base your assessment on physical abilities alone
Fuck me, I can't believe people can think like this? Babies are incredibly portable, you can't carry an adult or teenager under one arm!

Fairy- er why??

You can't really shop with a baby under one arm though can you? You need a trolley, pushchair etc etc...

Are you really that thick?

But does make life harder

You try having a wailing banshee screeching at you for using the space without a child or having your face and car plastered all over the Internet by entitled dicks who think having a child gives them some right to behave like an idiot. They're not people who can be reasoned with...I've tried when a woman got shouted down on a local parking page. Entitled doesn't come close.

Well said Fairy

Anyone who can't see that needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

MrsDeVere had it spot on in her post of 8.24 this morning.
I find this thread most refreshing in that the majority wouldn't sign the petition.
When you start comparing a baby who can't walk, and needs pushing, with a disabled person you can see the whole problem!

You can, it's not easy but it's possible. Again it's much easier than with a disabled child!

Today I had to shop carrying a 5 year old, so I am sure people can manage carrying a baby. And the bonus is supermarkets have trolleys and things which are suitable for babies and very young children.

I still don't get the on going "one or the other" sentiment here. Disabled people have a need for spaces and spaces are provided. What has that got to do with non-disabled p&c anyway??

"And actually, in rural areas (such as where I live) there is no choice but to drive to a supermarket."

Yes, because of course all of us people in rural areas have cars. There's no choice, no, of course not.

Ridiculous!

Regardless, and before I'm accused of it, I'm not suggesting that you give up your almost certainly non essential car for my amusement but I am maintaining that you can survive perfectly well without a P&C car parking space.