to ask if anyone has had a psychic reading that was extremely accurate?

[opheliaria]

One that could not be down to cold reading. For example, giving out very specific details such as exact dates, unusual names, basically precise facts that cannot be fished for or guessed and are not vague?

Instinct is often based on prejudice, fear and confusion.

an inborn pattern of activity or tendency to action common to a given biological species.
a natural or innate impulse, inclination, or tendency.
a natural aptitude or gift: an instinct for making money.
natural intuitive power.
^ This is what the dictionary says.

Fair enough Fakinell. Can't argue with dictionary.
I thought one thing, but you've hit me with very good evidence and facts, so I accept I was wrong.
Now...about these psychic powers of yours......

What do you think you were wrong about? I'm glad I was sitting down there haha.

You want to know more? Double shock of the day. You're trying to kill me to see if come back and visit. Ain't ya?

I was wrong about my definition of instinct. Fact is, when you've provided evidence to the contrary, I've changed my mind.

There's a wealth of evidence to show so called psychics have no psychic powers. Your 7/7 dream has been comprehensively dismantled on here. Confirmation bias at its best. You've convinced yourself that the number 8 in your dream was connected to the G8 summit, but I've demonstrated it's nonsense. You gave me the no 78 and I was able to link it to 7/7. If you'd given me a single number like 4 or 7 I could have found much stronger links. 4 bombs, 9 o clock, 5 bombers, 7/7,etc etc.

You seem to be completely lacking in critical thinking skills. You look for ways to make things fit when critical thinking would mean you'd have to look for things not to be connected. What you should do is have a starting point of "I have no special powers" and try as hard as you can to find rational explanations for all the things you now think of as woo.

I hope that makes sense but I doubt you'll try it.

Nah, too much evidence has proven the contrary, to me at least. How do you explain my granddad saving me from a fire then?

Blind drunk after a night out, freezing cold and I put the convector heater at the end of the bed. I never dream when I'm drunk (I no longer get in states like that though!!)

I 'dream' that I walk into my granddad's bedroom. He's looking out of the window. I say hi to him and he says he wants me to go. I say no, I've missed him and want to see him. He firmly tells me to go a few more times as I try to persuade him to turn around. Eventually he does turn and shouts at me to go back and wake up, it's not my time.

I shot up in bed with this massive rush of adrenaline and notice the bottom of my bed was smoking and smouldering. I was instantly sober!! This was confirmed years later by a medium too.

You know, I actually don't know why I share so many deeply personal stories to be mocked. I must be crazy.

You could smell smoke in your dream and your subconscious made you dream the best dream to get your arse out of there.

My late granda came to me in a dream to tell me I was pregnant, very early. I tested and he was right. It was just a dream, it wasn't him, however lovely it was. My subconscious knew, before I did.

I think that's lovely, Downtown. Bet it was him.

Nah, I was incapable of any senses that night. I really doubt I smelled smoke.

I need to be more open minded?

Ok, I'm bailing out now guys. A debate is fine but to piss on everything I say is a different matter.

I'm an educated person with good emotional maturity and a strong mind. I'm not deluded or mentally ill, have a God complex or any other kind of delusion of grandeur. I simply have a belief in the afterlife and have evidence of it that satisfies me. It's much more terrifying to think there's nothing after, I would be unbelievably stressed if I had no belief system but each to their own.

Vive la difference.

An aquaintance, sadly, believes in fairies (or faeries, probably) and that they are minutely concerned in her day-to-day activities. They offer predictions and advice. If they're wrong, then they are naughty fairies out to trick her. If they're right, well that's only to be expected. There are lots of people with amazing intuitive skills about people - like the best psychiatrists. 'Psychics' have those intuitive people-reading skills and a bit of fairy-like confirmation bias.

TTWK "You don't have a critical thinking bone in your body. You've completely deluded yourself into thinking you have special powers. But it's clear from the naivety of your posts on this thread that you just don't. You need to be more open minded to the possibility that you've let your over active imagination run away with itself and you've bestowed upon yourself abilities that you'd like to possess but clearly don't."

This is totally overstepping the mark no matter what you make of fackinell's beliefs. Suggest you familiarise yourself with the MN rules on personal attacks.

Fackinell, I appreciate your honesty and I don't doubt you are convinced by what you say, but your stories are hilarious. You were asleep. You had a dream. The way you tell it, it's like you've never had a dream before.

People always mention the Randi challenge but how can you "prove" something non physical using using a test that only conforms to physical science? If there is a spirit world it is possible that it cannot be measured using standard physical/material measurements and so does not conform to what scientists understand. However, science itself will only progress if it is not bound by old paradigms but keeps an open mind and does not apply its "facts" to make unexplainable things fit. I believe in Karl Poppers idea of "falsification and deduction" that evidence can only be used to rule out ideas, not to support them.

Also, there have been plenty of discoveries that go against the laws of physics and scientists still do not understand such as the double split experiment. It doesn't fit into the classic physics paradigm so perhaps all physicists should just assume it can't happen rather than accept that sometimes things go beyond standard paradigms. We need to accept the possibility that we don't have answers to everything but that doesn't mean what doesn't currently makes sense from a standard scientific viewpoint can't exist.

People always mention the Randi challenge but how can you "prove" something non physical using using a test that only conforms to physical science?

The challenge doesn't require applicants to "conform to physical science" - it simply invites them to do what they claim they can, under proper observation

As I've said I completely accept there's a lot we can't know, and many of us would genuinely welcome some clarification that all this is real, if only because it would be such a huge step forward. Unfortunately all we get is well-worn excuses which frankly don't cut it

I have been to see a couple of psychics...Nothing really memorable. I do know for a fact that there is an afterlife though. When my dad died my sister oddly thought it would be a good idea to take a picture of him lying in his coffin. She had a digital camera. She took the picture and looked shocked. Two images had taken...the first was my dad with odd pixelation which obscured just his face. The second was of the casket closed and taken from above and surrounded by blue like sky. We both knew in that minute that what we had seen was evidence of the supernatural but the stronger feeling was dad doesn't want the picture delete it straight away. Of course you don't believe me just as I wouldn't believe you. It makes me wonder how many other people have seen past the curtain into another world and just quietly file it away as I did.

I believe you queenofwands, what amazes me is how many sceptics or total non believers are on mumsnet. It's like they're determined to disbelieve whatever is said. They have an answer for everything. I find it strange tbh.

ashtrayheart she is very well known in my area, she has been around for years.

It's all nonesens in my opinion. My ex-partner was really into this. I went a long a few times, I have very unusual African sounding name and my family do as well. I probably had three readings, never once did they get any of my family members or my name correct.

Derren Brown is a great example. I remember watching him do readings and the person he did it to was convinced he was psychic???

It's all well and good telling someone how many children they will have etc. How about the lottery numbers, or who is going to win every football league in the world, or the exact amount of runs Allister Cook will score in the Ashes etc etc. There are so many easy ways for a psychic to publically prove their skills, yet they never do. All we hear are individual stories from far and wide. Why?

I'm sure there are many many charlatons out there but there are some genuinely psychic people. I don't think their inability to foretell the lottery numbers is any indication that they're crap though. Afaik it just doesn't work like that.

"I'm sure there are many many charlatons out there but there are some genuinely psychic people."

Why do you think that?

"People always mention the Randi challenge but how can you "prove" something non physical using using a test that only conforms to physical science?" Works for gravity!

The "test" really only means proper observation and monitoring. All the person has to do is what they always do, but under controlled conditions.

I don't believe in supernatural powers, but I did have something happen that left me gobsmacked.

I was one who developed crushes on teachers as a teenager ( back in the 1970s- no internet) and had three in particular that I was hot on.
I went with my mother and her friend to the next village as ny mother's friend had booked a psychic reading. We intended to wait in the front parlour.
After the friend's reading my mother decided that she would have a reading too. I waited outside.
When she came out she started telling us what the psychic had said, including reeling off the names of the teachers and the subjects they taught. I was mortified = there was no way the psychic or certainly not my mother would have known these teachers.
I was baffled, I have no explanation.

Propelusagain- do you have teenage children?

There is loads that I know about my teenqgers that they don't think I know. And I am as sure as I can be that if one of them had a crush on a teacher, I would know. Have you asked your mum about it?

Propelusagain... Your mother may have read your diary and used this to you.