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I voted Conservative, and am happy to admit it - why don't other Tory voters feel the same?

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MillyMolly99 · 09/05/2015 15:05

I voted Conservative, and am delighted with the election result. However no one else seems to admit to being a Tory voter, but there are clearly lots of us around. I told someone at work about my voting preferences - she looked at me as if I'd just killed a puppy.

DH commented that being left-wing is a more fashionable view, even if you don't agree with left-wing politics.

I think he has a point. And I get heartily sick of people who brag about being brought up on a council estate, holding it up as a badge of honour, assuming this gives more weight to their opinions than those of us who come from a different sort of background. It's some weird, inverted snobbery thing.

I totally agree with David Cameron's comments about wanting to ensure a good life for those of us who are prepared to work for it. What's so wrong with that????

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lem73 · 09/05/2015 17:40

Thanks for pointing that out judy. I was so annoyed on Thursday because ds (15) came home from school saying his form tutor had told them that the Tory government had made it so much more expensive for his generation to go to university. Shame the tutor didn't have the professionalism to balance it out by informing them that it was Labour who introduced fees in the first place.

TravellingToad · 09/05/2015 17:47

Mumsnet is like a little pocket of socialism that doesn't reflect the country as a whole.

Any YY to Judy pointing out it was Labour who brought in tuition fees.

There is a LOT of inverted snobbery. You know, working class, salt of the earth etc etc. High earners - lazy arseholes who get their pay check handed to them on a plate...

Figmentofmyimagination · 09/05/2015 17:49

A lot of people who voted conservative may not appreciate the extent of the brake that was put on their true plans by the presence of the liberal democrats.

Now that they have gone, especially in the sphere of employment rights and welfare benefits, we should expect, by 2020, to see a country that looks much more like the USA.

Expect, for example, to see beecroft's "no fault" instant dismissal proposals from 2012 back on the table.

But peoples' houses, if they own one, should still hold their value, absent some sort of external crisis, so that's ok, and there will be the opportunity to pass the whole £1,000,000 value of your family home to your children when you die.

What's not to like? I can't imagine why people wouldn't own up to voting for this stuff.

happybubblebrain · 09/05/2015 17:49

I'm wondering just how many small businesses will go under when nobody has any money due to cuts in the public sector and cuts in welfare?

I'm wondering how many of those small business owners will still be gloating about voting for the Tories when they can't access any help because they voted against it?

A very short-sighted and selfish vote will bite you on the bum sooner or later.

Lavenderice · 09/05/2015 17:50

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NRomanoff · 09/05/2015 17:52

lavendar I reported it because it was bang out of order. Hth

Lavenderice · 09/05/2015 17:53

NRomanov was it my language that offended you?

wdyfoyc · 09/05/2015 17:53

bettycatkitten
So now you can buy your Housing Association home and remove yet more social housing from an already sparse resource. Well done you.

Lime8 · 09/05/2015 17:54

I don't get it! Everyone keeps saying stuff about food banks and the conservatives not helping the poor...do they not give benefits to those in need? Do they not provide housing for those in need? It's not like they leave people who don't earn millions and need help in a dark hole. I know plenty of people that live in lovely government housing and earn more than I do claiming benefits.

I work hard, went to uni at my own expense, and before having my baby I saved damn hard! I also saved for a house deposit. I don't expect any handouts. If I was in need I would claim for relevant benefits until I was able to fix my situation (if possible).

manicinsomniac · 09/05/2015 17:57

I think it depends on how and for what reason they are asked but I think many Tory voters are as happy to share as anybody else.

I was very confused by the results because I felt like I didn't know anybody that voted Tory and couldn't see any evidence of anything but anti right wing politics on facebook or anything.

So I asked for opinions from anyone who had voted conservative. I got a range of responses from 'I'm not ashamed to say I'm happy with the results' to 'if you ask people to stand up and be shot nobody's going to stand up' to 'I'm happy to explain my position to people who ask but not those who yell and swear' to 'I'll tell anyone who asks me directly what I voted for but I'm not keen enough on politics to broadcast it everywhere.'

Same as most other types of voter I guess.

PeachyPants · 09/05/2015 17:57

I think the reason why many people who vote Tory are not happy to admit doing so has been made very clear on MN for the last few days, because they'll get treated like a pariah. I voted Labour and I'm very disappointed that we've ended up with a Conservative government but tbh my decision to vote that way was largely because of the impact it will have on me. I work for the NHS and over the last 5 years things have changed noticeably for the worse. The standards of care we are able to offer patients are lower because we're so stretched and I feel bad about that but it also makes for less job satisfaction and more pressure. I'm also worried about the creeping privatisation of the NHS and what this will mean for my own terms and conditions. Politics are cyclical though, we'll have another left wing government soon enough only for them to make mistakes, the public become disillusioned and vote back in the right wingers so it's futile getting some irate or smug about the results.

NRomanoff · 09/05/2015 17:58

Yep and it was a personal attack, seems mn agreed. And in record time as well.

Lavenderice · 09/05/2015 18:01

From an entirely professional point of view (I'm a child protection Social Worker) I wonder how many Conservative voters here use the NHS for themselves or their families? How many of them access Sure Starts? How many would be up in arms about the next child who dies when Social Worker's 'did nothing'? Because a lot of these resources will suffer horribly in the next 5 years,

wdyfoyc · 09/05/2015 18:02

Lime8 Oh yes, so and so earn more than you do claiming benefits. Who are these people, there seem to be so many of them!

I'm on Housing Benefit, Council Tax Benefit and get ESA, I get the ESA in my hand and rest goes to the council. It would be highly unlikely I would ever get a job that would pay enough to cover my relatively low social housing rent. My health issues would allow me to work part-time only and with a lot of support. It ain't gonna happen.

amybear2 · 09/05/2015 18:06

I voted for the party that would run the economy best
and so be able to afford to provide good public services

I despair.I really despair. How can you vote for a party and not have a clue about, not only their policies but their whole ethos?rYou don't know that Conservatiuves are all about cutting public services.What did you think they mean when they keep banging on about personal responsibility?

NRomanoff · 09/05/2015 18:07

I don't recall the nah being great when I had my dd in 2004 and do recall plenty of social service failures resulting in children dying when labour were in power.

amybear2 · 09/05/2015 18:08

I would just like to remind all those Labour voters who care so much about education that they voted in - THREE TIMES - a party that brought in tuition fees

But the conservatives tripled them! so surely that makes them 3 times as bad..

Figmentofmyimagination · 09/05/2015 18:08

Lime8 I admire your confidence about how in the event of need you would claim the benefits to which you are entitled. I wonder if you have any idea about the process of claiming jSA nowadays. Here is an illuminating article for you.
www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/09/unconnected-and-out-of-work-the-vicious-circle-of-having-no-internet

NRomanoff · 09/05/2015 18:10

I also recall labour sending its citizens into an illegal war, by lying, without inadequate equipment.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 09/05/2015 18:13

Yes and David Cameron and most Tories voted in favour of it. While 25% of Labour MPs voted against. The main opposition to the war was labour and lib dem and I don't recall seeing many Conservative banners at the antiwar march on 15 February 2003.

BrillBrilloPads · 09/05/2015 18:14

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NRomanoff · 09/05/2015 18:14

Yes amy and labour were going to cut them by 2/3 no undo it? Oh no, they weren't. And it didn't get written in stone, so not definitely doing anything about it.

Lavenderice · 09/05/2015 18:14

I'm not saying children didn't die under the Labour government, what I'm saying is that the result of this election means that there will be cuts in the amount of Social Workers in an occupation already working on skeleton staff.

NRomanoff · 09/05/2015 18:18

Yes because Tony Blair and labour were truthful about the details weren't they. Besides which labour were in charge. We would never have gone to war if it was for Tony Blair's special relationship with Bush.

ghostyslovesheep · 09/05/2015 18:18

NRomanoff I think your reasons make sense given your experience with your MP

and calling some one a C is a personal attack so will be deleted

But I work (for now!) in a frontline service for vulnerable children and young people - we lost 55% of our staff 2 years ago and now the service is being wound up completely as part of a £750,000 cut (further cut) to the children's services budget locally - directly due to Tory cuts. We are not the only service going or being reduced - they are also hacking YOS, youth service and EWO's

I don't think people have a clue how extensive, damaging and wide spread these cuts are - but they wont stop with services for the vulnerable and weak now - they will go after things that matter to more people - and they have the mandate to do so

it's scary out there right now - it's not going to get any better

if you thought services for kids where bad under labour you have a massive shock coming - especially if your are a family with children with SEND or a child in care

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