To think that if you voted Conservative you won't admit to it?

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My Facebook thread is chocca-block with 'anti Conservative'/country ruined/heath to the NHS' posts. Yet nobody has piped up to cheer that the Conservatives are winning.

AIBU to think that with such a majority, probabilities would suggest that a large proportion of my friends (in the loosest sense of the word)voted conservative but are sitting on their hands?

Exactly Gerti .

got to love those whingeing scots

Please do expand on your above statement...

I am happy to say I vote Tory, and have been for many years (since 2005 when it was really unfashionable).
I don't think there's anything especially moral or clever about voting for people who every time they get in piss the nation's prosperity up the wall. And I'm quite happy to defend that viewpoint at every opportunity.

It's a secret ballot. People don't have to shout about who they voted for. It's not a difficult concept is it?

Ok - the Scottish get a lot more money spent on them per head than the English which they get free university education, free prescriptions, free parking in nhs hospitals, more money in the budgets so the equivalent public sector jobs enjoy a better rate of pay, more life saving cancer drugs etc etc.
And still they try complain that Westminster doesn't listen to them, rant on about haing the English. Well boo hoo. Forgive me if I have little sympathy. What more do they want?

This thread is like a breath of fresh air! A safe haven for Tory voters

If Scotland wants to go alone then so be it They have more money to spend on non essentials than anyone else. Easy to be left wing when it's not all your money.

Nobody has to divulge who they voted for (unless they want to), but nor should anyone be criticised for choosing to vote for a perfectly legal party which appears on the ballot paper. We all have the right to vote for whoever we choose, or not to vote at all, to spoil the ballot paper (essentially the same thing) or whatever.

Bodicea it's odd you say the Scottish people (every one of them presumably) hate the English when you are the one displaying casual racism toward them.

I voted Tory and had a few arguments this morning over it. I'm not smug abd I'm not crowing but info think it's the best party to help drag us out of this never ending recession.

I agree with those who say perhaps a global perspective would be useful for some , I don't think that sets a low bar but would help some people get a grip

Hear hear.

I've lived in some absolutely awful countries.

When I look at the usernames of MN posters who have the most aggressive attitude towards those who do not share the groupthink, it's always the same old suspects, born and bred here, never had to adapt to another system, blissfully ignorant of the incredible country we live in, above all the fact they can post their ignorant knee-jerk bile without fearing a knock on the door.

Those hysterical 'that's it, Tory cunt government, I'm LEAVING' posts? Off you go then. Where's better, by the way?

Oh and no English person has ever experienced vitriol from a Scottish person.
I am just saying they complain a lot considering they have it pretty good. That isn't racism. That is an observation with a little light hearted was thrown in. I am allowed to disagree with the way the barnett formula give the Scottish major advantages especially when they are not very gratefull.

Ok - the Scottish get a lot more money spent on them per head than the English which they get free university education, free prescriptions, free parking in nhs hospitals, more money in the budgets so the equivalent public sector jobs enjoy a better rate of pay, more life saving cancer drugs etc etc.
And still they try complain that Westminster doesn't listen to them, rant on about haing the English. Well boo hoo. Forgive me if I have little sympathy. What more do they want?

I actually don't hate "the English" at all and have never ranted about hating any nationality. I have many friends born in England. You sound extremely bitter against Scottish people.

Epic bold fail! Actually, we don't get free NHS parking...

I am allowed to disagree with the way the barnett formula give the Scottish major advantages especially when they are not very gratefull.

Please explain why the people of Scotland should be grateful Bodica? Do you perhaps feel we drain the English in some way?

No, but you do get more spent on you per head than those of us in England.
And your chosen spokesperson freely boasted about how she was going to use her leverage at Westminster (which she didn't get, thankfully) to dictate the way things should be for the whole of the UK, despite having no legitimacy beyond Scotland, which makes her a disgusting hypocrite.
So people elsewhere are starting to feel a bit negative towards you. If that bothers you - and I bet it doesn't really - perhaps you need to ask yourself why it's happened.

BuriedSardine I've lived in some absolutely awful countries.

When I look at the usernames of MN posters who have the most aggressive attitude towards those who do not share the groupthink, it's always the same old suspects, born and bred here, never had to adapt to another system, blissfully ignorant of the incredible country we live in, above all the fact they can post their ignorant knee-jerk bile without fearing a knock on the door.

You do get far more perspective from living abroad, and I'd hate never to have done that in my life. I'm currently living in a supposedly more socialist continental country (at least taxes are supposed to be a bit higher) and its true, public transport is much better. So are the roads. Those are the things I notice most. There are more sports facilities of a better quality, except swimming pools. Swimming pools for some reason aren't any better than in England. In Scotland they tend to be excellent now, beyond parallel in any European country I've been to, because of all the PPI contracts the Scottish government have entered into. Most of them outside the cities are empty.

So I appreciate slightly more the better public transport and roads, but I also appreciate that I have far more disposable income here than the average Belgian or Dutch, because I've benefitted from the richer UK economy. Its enabled me to afford a car much nicer than someone doing a similar job here, a better house, a better standard of living in general. I have more spending money than my Danish colleagues, or my Swedish colleagues.

I've also noticed here that austerity measures resulting from the recession were far more severe here than in Scotland (where I lived before) and people really had to cut their budgets and give up stuff to get by. Prices are apparently much cheaper here now than before the recession.

The other thing I notice is that, in a more socialist country, people are less inclined to offer you help if you are in trouble - you have to ask for it. The assumption is that the state will sort you out, I guess.

Ít doesn't bother me at all Karlos. Not all of us 'chose' Sturgeon as our First Minister please be clear on that. However, she is. Why shouldn't our First Minister speak at Westminster? Afterall, she has been voted to represent us.

The Barnett formula was brought in in 1978 and also relates to Wales and Northern Ireland as well as Scotland. I don't see any mention of Wales or Northern Ireland on this thread. I only see only vitriol aimed at the Scottish.

Proud to be Tory and am out as such. I have a signed letter and picture from Mrs Thatcher on my desk here. There is no shame in having the politics which do people the most good as most of the people in the UK have so decided.

They have made a very wise choice.

In my experience on Facebook, the language used by many Labour and SNP supporters about Conservatives is absolutely shocking. It's not just negative comments about policies or even competency - it's vitriolic personal abuse. What is worse still is that people say these horrible things on Facebook - where they know their friends will read it.

It's not surprising people don't talk about voting Conservative.

An example from one thread on a FB post by a non-SNP candidate in Scotland:

"why would we want to beat SNP ? GYTF if yer nae happy move the F**CK down beside the other bams in London"

"Take the long walk bak to london uve nae chance job centre 4 u on fridy its snp al the way"

"Remember Thatcher, well thats why you will never get elected , you are Scum now jog on"

"You are a total wanker, waken up and smell the cod piece."

"Havin a laugh are you not time to lay down your crook and poke your flock"

"Getifuhyabassa"

That's just from one post alone. Its literally never-ending.

Some of these are people who have reasonable jobs. Obviously they are not worried that any prospective employers might google them in future.

I am allowed to disagree with the way the barnett formula give the Scottish major advantages especially when they are not very gratefull
Of course you are allowed to disagree, but that's not what you said is it - you wrote dismissively of "whinging Scots" - not a disagreement with a policy at all but an insult to an entire nation. Same as if I wrote about the "stupid English" etc rather than saying I disagreed with Tory policy.

Whatever anyone thinks about the result I was totally impressed by the turn out to vote!

I voted lib dem :( unfortunately in a safe Tory seat.

Meggy moo - bitter is an emotive word - you are being just a little be goady and aggressive towards me.

Are you honestly saying you wouldn't feel aggrieved if it was the other way round and it was the English that had more money spent on them per head it wouldn't bother yoy? I think you might be just a little bit pissed off.

Can you tell me straight that you honestly think it is fair?

And you know full well that it is a drain on the English tax payer. The money spent per head is set by the formula not by how much each separate country generates off it's own back.

Fifth generation Tory voters here. Direct abuse all you like, the Conservatives have pulled us out of recession and will continue to do so. And hurrah for not having to look at EM anymore!!!