AIBU to expect parents to control children even in the likes of Pizza Express

[Jewels234]

I know it's more of a family restaurant, but there are children all around me going mental. Screaming, having tantrums, standing on chairs. It's horrendous.

I am probably being unreasonable being here in the first place, but I love a leg gera salad.

I once did a whole legal case abot staring - whether a stare constituted communication and therefore a breach of ASBO. Does this make me extra mega qualified too? I don't have a degree in English literature though.

Well the joke is a bit old now but I included this information to prove that I am familiar with literature and can see that what I was trying to say has some merit. FWIW, I don't think these qualifications are that helpful in the grander scheme of things and I certainly don't want to be defined by them.

'A person is a success if they get up in the morning and gets to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.' Bob Dylan

That's what I value, I'm not remotely impressed by a list of qualifications!

"My niece works in one if the pizza chains at the weekend (not PE) She says it's the middle class mummies who are the worst at controlling their kids, and many make no attemp at all to temper little Oscar and jocasta's behaviour."

6musiclover, that's exactly what my Giraffe-waitressing niece says too!

I dislike intensely (NT, old enough to know better, i.e. 3 or four years plus) children who stare. I dislike even more the indulgent parents who allow them to do it.

I do get the point about not knowing if they're NT though. I'm childfree so don't go to the main child-friendly chains, but having been reading threads like this for a while I tend to assume now that any child who's being noisy / starey / wavey / impatient etc could have SN because I don't know they don't. I'm not sure whether that's reasonable or not.

That's quite a lot of outrage and dislike meissen. Do I care- do I fuck!

Well that seems to sum up your lack of parenting Golden

Doesn't it just Rita

meissen I'm picturing my niece and yours getting that sinking feeling when the see parents like Goldenbear.

I have already said my DC are really quiet in restaurants but that's just luck, I don't think it's much to do with me. I have a friend whose child is a lot more brave and will talk to strangers, runs off etc. it's just the way she is, she needs a lot more guidance and I feel for my friend as it must be wearing!

YABU for posting something on your mobile in a restaurant instead of talking to your family. Dreadful manners.

If you expect your kids to have good manners then you should exhibit them yourself.

Exactly kiwi. I raised this up thread somewhere but the OP has disappeared.