to wonder why women are so eager to get display their breasts to all and sundry

[VictoriaPeckem]

Model Gisele Bundchen "celebrates" her 20 year career by posing in the nude for the cover of Vogue Why not mark this milestone by posing in a beautiful dress?

They're all at it. Kate Moss "celebrated" turning 40 by posing for Playboy in bunny ears and tail FFS!

So it's not just desperate wannabees but 'A' listers who chose to demean all women by exposing their breasts for publicity. What message does this give to young women?

Jeez, people. They're just boobs. Plenty of blokes pose topless, you just don't care to see it. I'm sick of women thinking a woman's breasts should be kept to herself unless breastfeeding. It was her choice. Vouge is a magazine for women, not a bloody fap-mag, she obviously feels very proud of her body. Who is it effecting? No one, stop shaming women who are happy to pose naked. You make find it boring or unnecessary, but doesn't make it wrong or OK to judge other women.

I guess what can be at issue is the intention of the depicter.

This thread is scary. It shames women into covering up in the name of the sisterhood, reduces one of the basic form of Art, Nudes, to the desperation of an aging model (sexist and ageist much??) and overall shows a great intolerance to people particularities and refusals to adhere to one particular dogma.

Boobs are not always titillation, especially in Vogue. They are sometimes beautiful things that even an heterosexual woman can appreciate just for an aesthetic POV. Learn the difference between elevation and objectification, and lay off the over-used, over-discussed (ad nauseam) "impossible Beauty standards hurting women" .

You are demeaning all women with your woman bashing narrow minded opinion.

Kate moss is infantile though her actions irritate not the fact she has her tits out the concept of a 40yr old woman running about with her mates acting like teenagers irritate me acting like her world is the centre of the universe irritate me,

TheBlackRider In what world do you live in? I agree that trash TV and press is always doing that, but be a bit more choosy about your media and you will get rid of it in the most part.

At work, I work equally with men and women, and I am very happy to say that we are equally valued, and in charge. I work in Finance, and I regularly overhear pairs of blokes discussing the ideas and competences of their female colleagues in completely egalitarian terms, just as they would for male colleagues.

I think that if we completely obsess about whatever remnants of a more sexist time we still have in modern western society, we may become blind to the progress we made, and create a split society. Challenge sexist attitudes from wherever they come from, but do not become an egalitarian integrist: it's counterproductive and destroy a lot of the spice in life.

Women aren't reduced to their naked bodies all the time. The vast majority of women never expose their breasts in public, or feel the need to.
A model's body is a tool, an instrument.A female model displaying their body in Vogue has no bearing on other women, unless they want it to. Most women aren't models.
It would be nice to see more male models in similar situations though. I'm not surprised we don't though, seeing as a lot of women seem to think the male body is ugly.

As is her choice to shove drugs up her nose and be part of a culture that promotes size zero all her choices showing her breasts and wearing bunny ears all her choice nobody made her take her clothes off.

Anybody who opposes women posing for titillation, that much, can always approach them and ask them to stop. I gather Sinaid O'Connor once tried dictating to a younger female singer, on matters of taste and decency, and got told to mind her own business.

It's a reflection on women's worth in our patriarchal society

My friends aren't show offs. They're actually quite shy and doing it to fund their degrees.

I actually agree with you theblackrider using female sexuality to sell isnt right but I dont think a womans personal reason to pose naked for a birthday or whatever ties into the same bracket. What about women who pose with 1 breast after a masectomy or the trend for pregnant women to pose naked there is nothing shameful abput a womans body a woman can see her form as sensual and sexual without it objectafying (spelling) all women

it's what both of them do for a living.

they are both irrelevancies and I'm not bothered.

female sexuality to sell isnt right, right for whom? Obviously, she thinks it is right, if she hires an agent to find this kind of work for her.

Isn't that what the O'Connor row was about?