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to worry that leaving him is giving up on ever having a family?

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cantfindnicknotinuse · 29/04/2015 00:39

Today I was in the car with my fiancé. He was driving and I was trying to read a map and give directions, in an area we are both a bit familiar with but has a confusing one way system.

There was a turning we had to take and I knew it was on a corner with a particular landmark pub on. What I didn't know is the actual entrance to the car park for the pub is round the back on a different turn off (I've never been to the pub, just seen it from the road). So I said, 'turn off at the junction with the pub', and he thought I meant the other one, and we went straight past where I thought we were turning whilst I was looking down at the map. Then I asked why we didn't turn where I thought, he said it was my fault and I said to go that way, and he started yelling at me about where he should go now, and I was trying to work it out from the map and panicking and we had to do this huge loop on the one way system and got the right turning.

And for a moment there was silence and I thought it would be ok. Then he started ranting and shouting at me about how I was terrible at communication, and why would I say turn off at the pub if I meant where the building was and not where you'd go in the car to go to the pub. And at that point I put the map down and said I couldn't map read anymore.

He pulled over, looked at the map, drove us to where we were going, and has basically been angry at me since. I tried to keep out of his way for a few hours, then tried to talk to him, saying I didn't think I deserved to be yelled at for a misunderstanding giving directions. He said he was sick of me blaming him when things went wrong (which I hadn't??) and he wasn't going to take it anymore.

This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened. Pretty much every week now, for months, something minor will happen and he will become frothingly mad at me, and then will stay angry at me for days, often telling me he's dumping me because he has had enough. At some point I crack and apologise to him because I feel so sad about being alone and him being so distant. He say's it stress, from his work etc, but its only getting worse. He refuses to see his anger is a problem, saying its just his personality, and I have to accept it to be with him. Sometimes he gets sad and says he's a terrible boyfriend to me, but nothing ever seems to change.

I think I already know what everyone replying to this will say. Dump him. Walk out. Stop letting him treat you like this. For god's sake don't marry him and have children with him. In fact many of you did say it, when I last posted on here about a tantrum he threw.

But, I'm 36. I have no family. I have no children. I've spent several happy years tentatively thinking that he may be the one before this cycle of misery started. The last man I dated before was lovely and sweet and, it turns out a commitmentphobe, who was always '3 years away' from marrying me and starting our family, things he would talk about in glowing terms, as if he regretted the circumstances weren't right to start already. After more than ten years I realised he would always keep manufacturing new circumstances to not be right. Before that there were a few boyfriends who just weren't that interested in me (cheating etc), or I was too young to realise we had nothing in common.

I always wanted a big family. To have children. It tears my heart out to think I have to walk away, and be alone again. To start dating again with desperation written all over me, my age and my chances of having the family I want slipping ever further away. I want to wail about how unfair it is, that I've always tried so hard to be a good and decent person, a loving partner, and that millions of people fall in love and have children everyday, and why wont it ever work out for me?

If it was just about leaving him, despite the heartbreak, I know I'd get over it. But if I leave him, and don't manage to have a family with anyone else, I feel I will always blame myself for not trying harder to make it work. That feeling is utterly crushing.

OP posts:
Evabeaversprotege · 29/04/2015 19:25

Wishing you strength op

C0rde1ia · 29/04/2015 19:47

Good for you OP.

There really is nothing like the bone-chilling loneliness and misery of having children with a man like this.

And I was plagued for years with feelings of guilt, that I had 'given' my children such a flawed and angry father. I know that is a bit egg and chicken, but I did feel guilty about it. Like, you can't have children and then sort out a decent father for them along the way.

If you have children by a sperm donor, yes there will be issues but not anger and an abuse of fathers rights and manipulation and fear.

He will be surprised that you want out. don't fall for his promises to change. He should have wanted to be a nice man. He shouldn't need to fear the loss of you before he is co-erced in to being nice. being pleasant and even tempered should be his default. but blaming you, venting at you, that is his default. so no matter what promises to change he maks, remember that, he chose to be an arsehole to you. I bet he is nice to his colleagues?!?

ValancyJane · 29/04/2015 20:08

I think you're doing the right thing. I read your post and had to reply, because I had an ex who had a hell of a temper and treated me very similarly. I remember being screamed at a few times for my lack of navigational ability (my lovely OH was rather perplexed the first time I cried when he missed a turn in the car and I got flustered and thought he'd get cross...)

In your shoes, I'd give it a year and see how I felt, and then consider starting a family alone through adoption or sperm donation. Even if you stayed, I doubt a family would bring out the best in him from the sounds of it!

Lilipot15 · 29/04/2015 20:20

Read your post earlier and came back to reply - well done on your decision. Stick to it and be warned that when he sees the new happier and more confident you that you will be without him he will want you back and promise to change. This happened to me. Fortunately I came to my senses after he verbally blew up so much that I was left crying and shaking by the front door after he left the house - I decided then that I could never expose children to that and nor could I risk him behaving like that to children. He was an unhappy man and it took me some years to realise I couldn't fix him.
I took myself to a private fertility clinic after we split as I turned 35. Scanned and AMH tested. I was lucky and was told that my hope of freezing eggs was not necessary and if I was to do anything it should be freeze embryos which have a better success rate. At that point I wasn't ready to go down that route but the very nice consultant reassured me that there was no reason that I shoudn't go away, get on with my life and come back at 38 if I hadn't conceived. I was extremely lucky that I met my wonderful DH and now we have a little family. Being a parent is wonderful but tough and you do need the right partner - I would definitely rather do it alone with help of friends and family than be treading on the eggshells that I had to with the ex. Good luck and you are much better to make this decision now than to procrastinate for even longer. Keep the replies on this thread as a reminder of lots of sensible advice.

smbu · 29/04/2015 20:31

My sister stayed with an absolute arse because she thought at 38 he was her only hope of having a family. He dumped her last year at 42. She's now pregnant with twins & engaged to the nicest man I've ever met (apart from my DH & my Dad ??) she's 43! Her only regret now is she wasted so much time on the gobshite!

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redautumnleaves · 29/04/2015 21:05

Have courage OP and good luck. You have made the right decision.
Move on and recover your self esteem and your confidence.
Keep believing in your dreams. 36 is not old and you have time to have a child / children either with a new man or on your own.

anothernumberone · 29/04/2015 21:25

OP best of luck in the coming days and weeks. He sounds emotionally abusive and not good father material. You summed up my feelings that no father is better than an abusuve father.

Elllimam · 29/04/2015 21:31

Good for you Cantfindnick. I hope everything goes well for you. I think you are making the right decision. I would seriously consider the coparenting or sperm donation as well. Good luck.

Jackiebrambles · 29/04/2015 23:25

Great update op, I'm so pleased you are taking steps to leave. Stay strong and good luck!

MillionToOneChances · 29/04/2015 23:35

Good for you, OP. It'll be better in the long run.

hidingfromthem · 30/04/2015 00:17

you're right to leave.
he's an abuser.
i worry that his fists might one day follow that vile temper of his.

SquinkiesRule · 30/04/2015 07:17

Well done OP,
You are doing your future child/children a big favour by not linking them to this shouty man for the rest of their lives, no child should have to see their Mum being yelled at and belittled. Don't feel guilty they won;t have access to a Dad, just having a happy Mum and her family (if they are supportive) is enough.

HagOtheNorth · 30/04/2015 07:25

He's already targetting you in all sorts of nasty ways, you deserve so much better than that. He blames you, bullies you into feeling it's your fault and won't stop until you apologise.
It doesn't stop you having children at all, there are a lot of single parents on MN, Just not with this corrosive, aggressive and abusive man.
How could you want to have children with him? Children have the right to be brought up without fear and pointless rage in their lives, and he sounds vile.
They'd become a target for his behaviour too. You'd be putting yourself between them and harm every day.

HagOtheNorth · 30/04/2015 07:30
Blush Missed the update. Good decision OP, and as you can see, you'll get a lot of support from people who have been in similar situations and escaped.
magoria · 30/04/2015 07:31

Good for you OP you deserve better!

Good luck and you don't need a man to have DC if you can do it alone one good loving parent is better than one good loving downtrodden parent and an arse hole.

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