To think the SNP are just bullies

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Always have been and still are to this day.

Salmond boasting that they will write labours budget. Even though they will only get the similar amount of votes that the greens get. I don't support DC but even he is probably better than as.

twitter.com/essbo/status/590854050444398592

Some of Ian Smart's comments are vile. Sadly I've seen a lot of vileness from all sides on Twitter. Sometimes I wish I hadn't followed any politicians on twitter - seeing how people can react to even a totally non-political tweet depresses me. Ian Smart however has made his comments under his own name - he didn't set up an anonymous account to do it. I've seen a lot of anonymous accounts spewing out bile on twitter, and realising that a potential MP is behind one of them makes me even more disillusioned with human nature than I was before.

Ian Smart appears to be a Labour party member and activist, as far as I can see he is not standing as a candidate anywhere. Neil Hay is. And he will probably be an MP because as far as I can tell lots of people will be voting for whoever is wearing the SNP rosette. That's their choice, and as Nicola Sturgeon thinks it is fine to leave him there as a potential MP, I'm sure we can expect to see him popping up in the House of Commons. I'm glad I don't live in his constituency.

Seriously, did you read Neil Hay's supposedly bile-filled tweets? One was a link to BBC Scotlandshire "Och Aye The News"! I know Cameron has no sense of humour, but it's a bit depressing if that extends throughout the echelons of the opposition too.

I'm not sure that spending years tweeting stuff like "vile Nazis", "scum" etc is any better because you do it under your own name, and with the knowledge (and tacit approval?) of senior Labour Party members. Let's hope the whole storm in a teacup blows over soon.

For me, a defining moment was when Nicola Sturgeon didn't sack him. To say 'the electorate can decide' or equivalent seems like political expediency of the highest order. I would not have sat on the same platform as him so the fact that she and others seem prepared to do so makes me wonder about their integrity.

'i dislike negative electioneering'
Me to. But they all do it.

FWIW, I hadn't noticed an unusual level of anti stuff directed at the snp.

For the snp to complain about the English saying anti snp comments is a bit rich though, given the level of anti English rhetoric that flows across the border.

FWIW, I hadn't noticed an unusual level of anti stuff directed at the snp.

Arf. Do you live in a cave?

I'm an expat Scot so I don't know the full picture obviously but I would say that all of my friends and families living in Scotland share the same outlook as Tilliebob. Yet whenever the media have interviewed people in Scotland, the responses are overwhelmingly pro SNP and Sturgeon.
When I read things such as what happened to Margaret Curran I can't believe such things could happen in Scotland and I worry about what the definition of 'community justice' is.

Some amount of nonsense being spouted on this thread.

Oh dear, I wonder what Kezia and Creepy Jim will have to say about this? It's a bit more serious than linking to a satirical website.

What specific nonsense, FannyFifer?

Interesting, HirplesWithHaggis, and I would certainly expect a comment from the Labour Party Scottish leadership despite the fact that (as I'm sure you noticed) he is denying the charge and has not yet been found guilty of any offence.

As I have already said, these are just ordinary people with the frailties and failings of ordinary people. What concern me greatly though is that many of the SNP candidates are seen as in some way shining knights and that they are not.

Haggis its shocking but I'll never forget this man - evidence submitted to Nicola Sturgeon's office in person "included an affidavit written in 1987 in which Walker admitted hitting his former stepdaughter, Louise, who was 16 at the time, with a saucepan." yet he's still OK to become an SNP MSP?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10322765/Wife-beater-former-MSP-Bill-Walker-jailed-for-a-year.html

Yes, I know he's not convicted - but Neil Hay hasn't even been charged with any criminal offence, yet people are demanding he be sacked immediately. I'll look forward to their comments on this.

Bill Walker is a shitehawk of the greatest order and background checks should have eliminated him - but again, he wasn't convicted at the time, was he?

Politicians are just humans, and a recent thread had loads of MNers (including myself!) admitting they'd never go into politics because of their own skeletons in the cupboard.

But that's why it was unwise of Kezia to go on the attack like this, over absolutely nothing.

Aaaand I have just noticed that the article I linked has been updated; Labour have "withdrawn support".

A spokesman for the Scottish Labour Party said: "Sumon Hoque has been suspended from representing the Labour Party and we have, therefore, withdrawn support from him as the general election candidate."

No he wasn't convicted but had admitted to hitting his step daughter and 2 previous divorces cited domestic violence as the cause (court documents listing it all) and they were not contested.

www.vice.com/en_uk/read/queen-palace-coup-miliband-snp-cameron-huitson-345