To wish dangerous dog breeds and all breeds closely resembling them were banned in UK?

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There are so many nice friendly breeds, why chose a breed that was developed for aggression and fighting? I know individual dogs have different temperaments, but if they were selectively bred for bull and bear baiting, how can they make good pets?

Pit bulls (illegal in UK) are frequently kept illegally and passed off as Staffy-crosses until the police find them.

I think they should ban all dobermans, rottweilers, staffordshire bull terriers, malamutes, huskies, german shepherds and any other dog with aggressive genetics, plus all the breeds that closely resemble them. I frequently see these breeds in local park, off the lead, running amongst small children!

This will go down well.

Best ban poodles, too, since they're bloody nasty when brought up to be aggressive.

Battersea Dogs Home runs the Staffy campaign because they are overrun with unwanted staffies they are trying to re-home. However you dress up their temperament, they still look similar to Amercian pit-bulls and are the reason so many pit bulls are undetected in UK (its normal amongst dog-fighting rings to pass off pit bulls as 'Staffy-crosses'.)

Its no coincidence that most of the attacks on children (and adults) are by breeds that were selectively bred for aggression, with powerful jaws and tendency to lock-on when they bite. Many staffies also have aggression problems towards other dogs.

I'm sure every dog that injured a child was considered a gentle family pet until it turned.

I just don't get it... there are so many friendly breeds, why choose one that was developed for bull baiting, rounding up cattle, guarding, fighting etc. The impact of generations of selective breeding can't be underestimated. How can you feel safe having a dog like that around small children??

Both unreasonable and ignorant. But at least you've found a friend in formerbabe.

I have an English Bulldog and two twats asked me if I wasn't worried about how dangerous they are

She is beautiful.

I had a staffy and they are amazing with kids. They are called nanny dogs for a reason.

You are just ignorant.

The most serious attacks and bites come from dogs with more power.

When was the last time you saw " Chihuahua/Maltese/ Yorkie" Kills child/man/woman/

Or "" Chihuahua/Maltese/ Yorkie" Disfigures child/ man/woman?

It would make a great head line, i have never ever seen one i am sure they bite though, I was bitten by a yorkie as a child it was nothing.

Perhaps you should do your research OP! You will find that all the breeds you have listed are not responsible for the most attacks or bites in the uk.

The media loves these stories and so we only hear about these breeds.

The people are the issue training their dogs to attack, ANY dog can be aggressive.

Here's some info regarding 2323 legal pit bulls in the UK here

While I think the OP has expressed themselves particularly badly, I would support an argument against aggressive dogs being kept and/or allowed to be in public places unless suitably restrained.

There are people, often fairly unpleasant people IME who train dogs to be aggressive and dangerous and then take them to public places and let them threaten children and so on.

We met some people like this outside our primary school one summer, they were taking drugs and very drunk and their dog was growling at my son, who was about 6 at the time. He was frozen with fear and I had to approach the dog shouting at it, to make it leave him alone and turn on me instead.

The owner wandered up to us shouting 'it ain't his fault. He was brought up to be like that'

So basically it was her fault. You can have any breed of dog and train it to be a bastard, or train it to be very mild and behave nicely. But when I see certain people (loads round here) with dogs that look aggressive, even if they aren't, it makes me wonder if that's the reason they have them, to intimidate people. It reminds me of the 'demons' in the Golden Compass film.

It's the owners I have the issue with - the dogs are innocent in all of it IMO.

I grew up with rottweilers and German shepherds. I sat among the shepherds pups at 6 fussing and playing with them she only watched. The rottweiler was just a big stupid pile of love who thought he was a lapdog.

You are acting like an Ill informed irrational moron. Deed not breed. Bad owners not bad dogs. I have never met a dog I couldn't love and didn't love me in return. I think we should ban idiotic and dangerous humans let's start with you.

How many kids do you think 2323 pitbulls could eat OP?

Pantah630 How are you going to enforce the dog licence?

It would have to cost enough to make it worth collecting. Then watch the usual suspects complain that it is a tax on the poor, it is regressive, what about the pensioner whose only companion is the dog, yadda yadda . . .

Well OP you clearly show yourself here to be both idiotic, misinformed and inflammatory all at once.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DANGEROUS DOG. Only dangerous owners.

Educate yourself please.

my kids were fine with our staffie.
it's not the dogs its the owners, anyone with half a brain knows that

when I see certain people with dogs that look aggressive, even if they aren't, it makes me wonder if that's the reason they have them, to intimidate people.

What sort of 'certain people'? Why does it bother you why (in your own opinion, not backed up by anything factual) you think these people might have certain dogs? And how do you arrive at that judgement?

Oh and Bulldogs are known to be great with kids as well. Mine is a big teddy bear. Very Immature for her age and not very clever but very very loving.

I do hate it when threads like this turn to people hating on small dogs and labelling most of them as aggressive though which often happens.

Here is my vicious staffy cross...

I grew up with a german shepard and she was lovely but thinking back I do think we were ignorant and didn't realise how people were afraid of her, even though we loved her. Funnily enough my DM was terrified of dogs! But loved this one.

People get very defensive over their dogs but we fail to remember strangers do not know us from adam we could be that irresponsible owner, as our dog bounds up to their child.

A german shepard sank its teeth into a relatives leg and I had awful time with another family members rottie, horrid nasty evil dog and she was a good owner.

The thing about Staffordshire bull terriers is that they **live to please their family/owners. Therefore because I train/expect my staffie to be gentle and obedient, she is.

Of course, if thugs raise a staffie from a puppy to fight other dogs, it will, because it will want to please its thuggy owners.

I keep away from aggressive young men (with or without dogs) rather than keep away from normal looking dog owners whatever dog breed they have.

I would love to see anyone try to take my calm, loving, well trained german and Belgium shepherds away from me.
You are ignorant and you talk less.

so sweet claimed, but I wonder how docile she would look if challenged over a toy when out? Or if child took her toy or food.

It was my understanding that the whole jaw locking thing was bullshit?

Oh words fail me..... I have a doberman and I can assure you there is NO way I would have a "dangerous dog" or "dangerous breed" anywhere near my kids. He is without a doubt the kindest, gentlest dog I have ever met. He adores them and they adore him. He has never once growled, snarled, lifted his lip or even moved out of the way of them once. He is super friendly and well socailised with all other dogs and has never once started a fight in the park or been a danger or a nusience to anyone.... Your post is totally ignorant and lacks any understanding of dogs, breeds, training, or ownership at all.

The only thing dangerous about my Staffy is his arse when it goes off. Toxic little bastard!

kAYA its hard to keep away when people are strutting up street and into parks with nasty looking dogs not on leads.

"Its no coincidence that most of the attacks on children (and adults) are by breeds that were selectively bred for aggression, with powerful jaws and tendency to lock-on when they bite."

According to who? Statistically Labradors have the highest number of bites and according to research dachshunds are most likely to bite. Also no dog in the world actually has locking jaws.

"why choose one that was developed for bull baiting, rounding up cattle, guarding, fighting etc."

So all types of collies, corgis, Pekingese, Boston terriers...all to be banned too, or just the ones you don't like?