To ask if anyone has ever had an irrefutable experience with a psychic?

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I'm just going to be really honest and say that the reason I'm asking this is because I'm afraid of death. I really want to believe that there is something after death, and so in the past I've thought about speaking to a psychic. If they could tell me one thing - just one thing that couldn't be explained away - I could say to myself 'Ok, there is something else out there' and be content and not let the idea of 'the end' terrify me too much. Yes I should probably seek counseling.

So my question is - does anyone have an irrefutable experience with a psychic - something they were told that can't be explained away? Mostly the experiences seem to point towards it all being a load of hooey (which is what I believe, but I want to believe it's not). Psychics seem to give very general readings and most are frauds that pick up on things that the person has said and regurgitates them, right? My friend saw a psychic and apparently her dead father 'came through' and told her that she was having her garden done - and it was true! Like your dad would bother coming up from the spirit world to tell you some mundane crap from your own life that you already knew!

So every single person who has claimed psychic powers would prefer to nobly prefer to labour away charging old women £40 a pop to tell them their husband misses them and they should try looking in the back of the settee for the shed key they'd mislaid. There are plenty of self proclaimed psychics who have used their dubious skill for commercial profit. Sally Morgan and Derek Acorah to name but two, are you really telling me that ethics and a sense of noblesse oblige prevent them from claiming the prize?

That's sort of my point - the fakes are raring to make money from their non-existant connerie; anyone genuine, however remote that possibility might be, wouldn't be at all interested in the tsunami of publicity that would follow.
I think it's not possible to say one way or the other - admittedly the probability is very low of their being genuine psychics, but it isn't something I think we can ever actually know, for certain.
I go on as if it isn't real, though.

"anyone genuine, however remote that possibility might be, wouldn't be at all interested in the tsunami of publicity that would follow."

Really? Why not?

You really need to ask that question? You really can't imagine the relentless exposure and pressure and scrutiny they would be under for the rest of their life? Constant attention, every hour of every day, gee, can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want that.

Strange

So all of the 'real' psychics (should they exist) would rather be lumped in with all the frauds, charlatans, nutters and fairground acts and take the derision that goes with it, rather than prove themselves beyond all reason that they have special powers and earn a million dollars in the process?

• Sorry, not buying that one.

Anyone genuine, however remote that possibility might be, wouldn't be at all interested in the tsunami of publicity that would follow

You could apply that to any human endeavour such as the first heart transplant, first powered flight, first African-American US President, first person to climb Everest. But all these people believed in the importance of what they were doing and weathered a tsunami of publicity in order to achieve their notable 'first.' Why should psychics be any different?

I'm not psychic, but I have seen a few dead relatives, (2 separate occasions, different relatives) and they were doing ok considering they are dead. So existence after the body dies is real. The first encounter I didn't realise what was happening, I thought it was Jesus tucking my little brother in. The second was my grandma, aunt, granddad and uncle, they were stood in a group and my aunt told me not to worry, they were all together and I had to tell my mum and my mum hadn't to bother with that other place no more. Mum used to visit the Spiritulist Church hoping for a message. Turns out she never did. Incidentally, the same Church told my cousin - years before - to make sure we were nice to my mum, because they were getting ready for her 'coming'. She's still here 20 years later!

Would I take Randis challenge? No because I didn't 'call' them. I can't prove I'm not making it up. On a personal level, I know love is real, but you can't measure it by scientific methods. I know love lasts even after our bodies cease to be.

I am pretty sceptical, have never paid to go to a psychic or medium or anything like that. However I have had a few experiences where I've dreamed things and they have happened, or I've somehow known something would happen before it did.

Nothing earth shattering or important like 9/11 or lotto numbers. The clearest example I can remember is that in 4th form I dreamed we got the results of a religion test back, in the dream I got my mark and a girl in the class who I wasn't friendly with came top with 94%.

Shortly afterwards we got the tests back - as they were being passed out I said "oooh I had a dream about this test, I got 74% and you [to the girl] came top, you got 94%". Sure enough we both did. Could be coincidental of course! A few weird things like that have happened to me. They've also happened to my mum. She once told me that she'd had a weird dream about my older sister, who died when she was 4. She said it was a weird dream because it was my sister but she had a different face.

She called me the next day - she'd been to church the following morning & a friend had been their with her small granddaughter - the little girl had the same name as my sister & the face in mum's dream! Needless to say mum was a bit shaken.

I am not remotely woo (mum is a bit) & as I say nothing I've "foreseen" has been useful at all! Fourth form religion test results FFS.

Been THERE I mean. God how embarrassing. Should also say that mum hadn't ever met the little gramddaughter before or seen a picture of her.

*GRANDDAUGHTER

fuckit I give up!

Shortly afterwards we got the tests back - as they were being passed out I said "oooh I had a dream about this test, I got 74% and you [to the girl] came top, you got 94%". Sure enough we both did. Could be coincidental of course!

Think of all the dreams you've had in your lifetime, the overwhelming majority of which are nonsensical and you rapidly forget. If you have a vivid dream only once a week for 20 years, that's over a 1,000 dreams.

The one time reality and dream measured up, you remembered it decades later and have disregarded the other 1,000 which didn't measure up. For example my past two dreams involved a work colleague who turned up for work and didn't have a nose and that I'd started up a Piano Tuning business with Jason Grimshaw from Coronation street.

Needless to say, colleague still has nose and I'm not in the Piano tuning game with a fictional soap character So I can't see me remembering them in a week's time, let alone a lifetime.

Also how 'spooky' is the fact you guessed the percentages in your dream? I am guessing the girl in question was academically able and got a lot of high marks? You also had a sense of roughly how well/badly you were doing in the subject.

No she wasn't particularly, I usually came top (probably why I remembered the dream! I had my ego dented. Ha). She was def not someone I remember as a high achiever, in fact I barely remember anything else about her except for this one weird thing.

I remember it because I recalled the situation before it came to pass iyswim - as the tests were being handed out, it triggered the memory of that exact situation in the dream and I already knew the results. It was weird - I know it's not evidence of anything. I am a pretty logical person and I would never go to see a psychic! It was just odd.

I've hummed songs on the radio and then they've played, but I'll either hum the same song as it's stuck in my head, and the reason it's stuck in my head is because it's usually been played a lot, in which case there's a good chance it will play again at some point if that makes sense.

I've lots of weird vivid dreams, very weird ones, dreams where someone I have passed once in the street years ago is close to me, and I have dreamed about my dad a lot,just doing his normal stuff and chatting away to me, , it's so powerful it's almost like he is alive again, which really upsets me as it seems so real and those few moments when you wake, where it is real then the reality that he is dead is like being punched in the stomach and it bothers me for the rest if the day. He's death was sudden, and it's been three years now but I do think of him every day, I miss him which is why I think I dream of him so much. It's my mind processing what I'm thinking imo.
I dream about bad things happening to dd or dh and if I thought they were predictions, I'd never let them leave the house. It's just because I worry about losing them or them having an accident sometimes so that plays out at night.

I don't think the mind can speak to the dead or predict, but I do think the mins is a powerful fascinating thing.

I am not remotely woo (mum is a bit) & as I say nothing I've "foreseen" has been useful at all! Fourth form religion test results FFS.

I think we all dream things that come to pass. I know that I have. The question is whether or this is coincidental, or there really is some mysterious power at work. One way to look at this is that it's pretty normal to dream some things that later come true and some things that don't. The dream you remember didn't predict anything that was remotely improbable. Did you have other dreams of test scores that came true? If not, it's likely you had many such dreams but remember the one that later came to pass. It's likely your dream prediction rate is quite average, but you remember the ones you got right.

there are many explanations. the least likely is that you (or anyone else) has a "gift".

I think people don't realise how common coincidences are- for example, 64 million to one chances could happen in the UK every day!

Exactly keep It would be like saying 'i have a 'gift' for picking winning raffle tickets' on the basis that I've bought a raffle ticket every week for a 20 years and have picked out one winner, disregarding the 1,000 odd losing tickets I'd picked out.