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To ask if anyone has ever had an irrefutable experience with a psychic?

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BlueDressingGown · 19/04/2015 23:41

I'm just going to be really honest and say that the reason I'm asking this is because I'm afraid of death. I really want to believe that there is something after death, and so in the past I've thought about speaking to a psychic. If they could tell me one thing - just one thing that couldn't be explained away - I could say to myself 'Ok, there is something else out there' and be content and not let the idea of 'the end' terrify me too much. Yes I should probably seek counseling.

So my question is - does anyone have an irrefutable experience with a psychic - something they were told that can't be explained away? Mostly the experiences seem to point towards it all being a load of hooey (which is what I believe, but I want to believe it's not). Psychics seem to give very general readings and most are frauds that pick up on things that the person has said and regurgitates them, right? My friend saw a psychic and apparently her dead father 'came through' and told her that she was having her garden done - and it was true! Like your dad would bother coming up from the spirit world to tell you some mundane crap from your own life that you already knew!

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keepitsimple0 · 21/04/2015 11:45

I still don't believe, but am just not sure what to think. That woman didn't even know my name, but could tell me stuff that was just mind blowing

watch the video posted. it might explain this.

Limer · 21/04/2015 11:46

Going back to the OP's fear of death. I'm not scared of being dead, but I am scared of the process of dying - pain, fear, disease, disability, ageing, accident, whatever it may bring it won't be fun.

I'm not religious, don't believe in any 'woo' stuff, so I just think when you're dead, that's it. Personally I find that very comforting. I would hate to think there's another place that dead souls inhabit.

Anyone else come across people who think that a white feather means the presence of someone dead? Have had to bite my tongue on occasion. Especially when there were about six feather pillows two feet away.

keepitsimple0 · 21/04/2015 11:47

We would all love definitive proof but there will never be anything to convince everybody.

but if there is no convincing proof either way, isn't the default NOT to believe? I don't need proof you aren't a psychic if you don't claim to be, but I do need proof if you do claim to be.

Dr0pThePirate · 21/04/2015 11:49

Catthiefkeith Something similar happened to my mum. She was best friends with a girl in school, Amanda Jane (not her real name).

They lost touch after school then my mum found out through Amanda's mother that she had been killed in a car crash. My mum was distraught and pregnant with me at the time. In honour of her dead friend she called me "Jane".

A couple of years later my mum found out Amanda was still alive and living in Australia. They got back in touch and it transpired Amanda had pissed her mum off so badly somehow that her mother had been telling all and sundry that her daughter was dead!

I wonder how often families do this to each other? Confused

wheezeontoast · 21/04/2015 11:52

LucyBabs - I clearly said that the details were not a 'free for all on the Internet' actually. I had a lot of info online, due to my job, but not what she came up with.

What I am trying to point out is that, even when they seem to be doing amazing things, it's still hokum.

wheezeontoast · 21/04/2015 11:54

I find your question to expat pretty tasteless too.

specialsubject · 21/04/2015 12:31

my crystal ball tells me that there is a really obvious explanation for all the amazing psychic readings on here. It is all a load of crystal balls.

I don't know how Penn and Teller do their stuff until they explain it - but it is NOT magic.

pretty - your psychic met the pregnant girl and simply mistook her for you. Cars stolen from houses always go from the drive, the house gets burgled and the keys taken. Although since the advent of remote keys, the burglar doesn't need long to find which of the cars on the road he can take.

OP - please see a counsellor (referred via your GP) for your fears.

LucyBabs · 21/04/2015 13:08

wheeze Why was my question to expat tasteless? I asked if she had been to a medium after her dd died, thinking that maybe she had and had found it to be pointless..

Dr0pThePirate · 21/04/2015 13:19

LucyBabs it's an insensitive thing to say to someone who has lost a child.

expat already said she didn't believe but that a "psychic" was paid for their "insight", which was wrong. You then asked if she had been to see another "psychic" since she lost her daughter.

Why the hell would she? Why would she put herself through that to "confirm" it was pointless?

dominogocatgo · 21/04/2015 13:23

Someone upthread announced something along the lines of "no-one really knows what happens when we die".
Err yes we do - some people get buried, putrefy and get consumed by nature, and others get cremated and turned into smoke and ash.
I thought this was common knowledge.

Hakluyt · 21/04/2015 13:24

Catthiefkieth- apologies.

Expat had already said she does not believe in psychics- asking whether she has consulted once since the death of her daughter is crass in the extreme.

Hakluyt · 21/04/2015 13:29

Here's a passage we used at my mother's funeral- it's by Brian Cox. I think it's wonderful. "Our story is the story of the Universe. Every piece of everyone and everything you love, of everything you hate, of everything you hold precious was assembled in the first few minutes of the life of the Universe, and transformed in the hearts of stars, or created in their fiery deaths. When you die, those pieces will be returned to the Universe in the endless cycle of death and rebirth. What a wonderful thing to be part of that Universe. And what a story. What a majestic story!"

INickedAName · 21/04/2015 13:45

I have a friend who thinks she has "the gift" she often asked me to let her do a reading which I politely decline, I don't want to her hurt her feelings, she knows I don't believe so a reading wouldn't from her wouldn't convince as she knows everything about me anyway, so it wouldn't prove anything.

She once handed me a peice of oaper, and told me to look at it when she got home, they are words that came to her when she thought of me. Things that she felt are important to me. Family. Home. Happiness. Health. Yes they are important to me, but also everyone else I'd imagine. Then there words like orange, television, sink! Which meant sod all, I told her they mean nothing to me, but she said "oh, then they will become important at some point"

I'm not scared of death, but I'm scared of the process, or if my family being sad after I'm gone, especially dd. I live that Brian Cox passage. I've c and p'd it.

Dr0pThePirate · 21/04/2015 14:02

Hak Thats a really beautiful passage. It reminds me of a scene in a book where the main character (human) is shown a scene of a woman in a forest. The main character mistakes her for Eve until she sees the woman is giving birth to her own pregnant self. It's a horrific scene that the main character is frightened by. It is explained that the scene she is witnessing is the birth of the Orion nebula but as a human is experiencing the scene in a human way. The point is we are all part of the Universe experiencing life as a human for a short time. Every atom of our being is part of the universe and that our own life and death cycle is the same as the life and death of the stars.

Anyway a bit off topic but that passage reminded me of it Blush

expatinscotland · 21/04/2015 15:26

I don't believe in psychics, in mediums, in god(s), or that anyone can communicate with dead people. I think it's all a human fabrication to make people feel better at the certainty of death. I think such people who claim to speak to dead people or predict the future are at best deluded, at worst those who take advantage of vulnerable people. So it goes to follow there is no reason I would ever see one.

LucyBabs · 21/04/2015 19:17

dropthepirate

I didn't see the part where expats mother had been to a medium. I have now just read her previous post regarding that and it makes sense after such a thing that expat would never go to a medium.

I certainly don't think its crass to ask someone a question regarding this. It seems its fine to completely dismiss anyone's belief that a medium can speak to the dead.

I believe my parents who recently died communicated to me through a medium.
I am not a vulnerable person, not easily taken in or manipulated.

I think I am entitled to this belief just as much as someone who believes its rubbish.

expatinscotland · 21/04/2015 19:35

It was my MIL.

wheezeontoast · 21/04/2015 20:11

You don't think it's crass to not even take the time to pay attention to a post that is talking about something so raw?

Sallystyle · 21/04/2015 20:13

Yes I've had experiences way before the internet from complete strangers who didn't know I was going to see them that are really hard to explain. I remain an agnostic because I believe people may have this skill but it probably isn't them talking to the dead.

If my ex is capable of talking to a medium why can't he turn the light off or send me a mesaage when I ask him to prove he is in the afterlife?

Hakluyt · 21/04/2015 20:15

"certainly don't think its crass to ask someone a question regarding this. It seems its fine to completely dismiss anyone's belief that a medium can speak to the dead."

Please tell me you are not comparing the two..........

expatinscotland · 21/04/2015 20:22

I think so, Hayk . . . not surprising, though.

And if my other posts had been read first it would be clear, too, that if others want to believe mediums speak to the dead, good on them, but I don't believe it.

Orangeanddemons · 21/04/2015 20:28

That's what mine was like Lucy. I gave no details at all, but she told me stuff that was impossible to predict or make up. Details about my sisters very rare illness, my daughters middle name, all sorts of stuff. Nome of which I or any one else told her

expatinscotland · 21/04/2015 20:30

I like how another bereaved parent summed up 'angel cards'. 'Let's be logical, people. Why would omniscient supernatural beings who can take any form need 4x6 cards to communicate with you?'

Afraid of death? Understandable. Humankind has always been, and has developed all manner of institutions and beliefs to rationalise it to themselves. But wanting something to be true doesn't make it true. And the fact is, there is no definitive proof of afterlife, of predicting the future, etc.

Do watch the Darren Brown clips.

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BlueDressingGown · 21/04/2015 20:43

Thanks for all of the input. I'm interested in everyone's stories and thoughts. I'm a bit horrified by the ones where someone has pretended a family member was dead though (although recognise that one of those involved a MH issue). Bit alarming for those involved, though!

I refuse to believe that we know everything about the universe and find it odd that people can categorically say what is or isn't the case about mediums, religion etc. Seems sort of arrogant to me. I sway towards thinking it's a load of hooey but could never categorically say so. There is also a large part of me that thinks that if the thought of mediums, psychics, the afterlife, heaven or anything else is a comfort to someone then I'm not sure there's any harm in it. The story about 'David' and the baby was quite compelling. That doesn't seem like something that could be made up (although it does also make me feel a bit odd as I had an early miscarriage (7 weeks) and now think 'what if there is an afterlife and a 'baby' that I really never met or thought of as an actual person is waiting for me there?' Sorry if that offends what others believe about miscarriage.

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BlueDressingGown · 21/04/2015 20:44

expat I'm really sorry for your loss. :( Sorry to anyone else who is thinking about lost loved ones as they read this kind of thread, too. x

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