To think this woman actually *is* being a bit "too posh to push"?

[VenetiaFleet]

Talking to a colleague about childbirth today, she brought up the topic, not me. My DS was born last year – straightforward natural birth in the water, quick recovery for me. She was making faces at the idea of natural birth and said that it's hideous and if she ever got pregnant she’d always opt for an elective c-section as it’s so much easier and her friends who've had one just rested after childbirth and were fine.

Then she said that another reason she wants a c-section is because she doesn't like the idea of being loose and wants to remain "tight" for her husband (also imaginary at this point)! I guess her implication is that those of us who've given birth naturally have fanjos like windsocks!

Do we finally have a case of someone who actually does think she’s too posh to push and doesn't realise that a CS is major surgery??

You get the other clueless end of the not-mums-yet spectrum though, that assure you that they will be giving birth according to their birth plan, with Ave Maria playing in the background as they joyfully sneeze the baby out and step back into their size 8 jeans...

Youre clueless until you have done it yourself, really. Possibly more than once, too!

Perhaps the best response would have been "Oh dear, your husband not blessed with a decent sized cock then?".
Or just a "Can't say birth has left ME pelvically flawed, but each to their own."
FWIW, I've had one emergency and two elective c sections. Still doesn't mean you can neglect the pelvic floor exercises. Pregnancy itself puts enough of a strain on them. Although to be honest, the only time I actually do them is when I have to involuntarily clench as people discuss the state of their post birth fanjos, so she might have a point.

Oh and of course, if anyone ever asks why I didn't attempt the holy grail of successful vbac, I do actually look at them in horror and say "But I'm FAR too posh to push".)

YABU for taking a young (single?) childless (at this moment) woman's comments so seriously OP.

She WBU to make sweeping generalisations from a position of ignorance.

FWIW, I hear RedToothbrush. I had a ELCS due to DC1 being placenta praevia, and the consultant explaining that if I went into labour the placenta would rupture and I'd haemorrhage and die.

Unsurprisingly, I developed secondary tokophobia and the first thing I demanded (I say that deliberately) when I got pregnant with DC2 was an ELCS because haemorrhage and death .

As it turned out, DC2 was breech and it was a massively complex (medically) pregnancy so had an ELCS. It didn't stop an evil old bitch of a midwife sneering at my notes "Nonsense, women with (my medical complication) give birth naturally every day, ELCS goodness me!" at my 24 week check. That brought me out in a cold sweat of terror, the merest risk that I might not be "allowed" my ELCS.

I still, many years later have cold sweats of terror contemplating vaginal birth - for me . I am absolutely in awe of women who have given birth vaginally.

In fact all women who have ever given birth, however it's occurred. Let's be supportive and understanding of other women and our choices.

to all of you who have suffered trauma and/or birth injuries.

I have a hideous apron going on and a small bit of my ELCS incision wasn't anaesthetised properly.

It's very unlikely I'll ever be pregnant (37 and single) so it's all hypothetical for me but I wouldn't say I'd never rule out an ELCS.

Not because of fear of pain but fear of damage. I've had friends with straightforward vaginal deliveries but several with third degree tears, a friend who had to have a perineal repair due to birth damage etc.

The latest friend to give birth said the birth was ok but the 90 minutes of stitches afterwards was not. Plus she said the fact the Dr that did the stitches had to put a finger in her vagina and in her anus to check the damage (I know this is medically necessary BTW) and then had to get a second opinion too was the worst part of the entire experience because she found it so embarrassing.

Only one being sneery round here is you, OP, as you've proved in your response to RedToothbrush. It clearly bothered you enough to write an intensely smug AIBU post.