Was I BU to use the disabled toilet?

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At a local national trust place today, just me with Dd age 6 and baby in his pram.
The baby change unit in the loos is just in the main area, there's a long row of (tiny) cubicles and a large disabled loo with a sink in.
Dd and I both needed the loo, there was nobody around, so I took both kids in the disabled loo.
As we came out there was a woman approaching the loos on a crutch. She hadn't been waiting - she was just approaching as we exited. She told me, sharply, that I shouldn't have used that loo, the baby changing wasn't in there. I said I knew that, we hadn't needed to use it, just wanted a bigger cubicle so as not to leave the baby outside. She replied it didn't make any difference as none of us was disabled.
Was I BU to use the disabled loo?

Nope, a troll would be someone starting a parking thread for effect as you were suggesting you might.

I think if you'd tried to explain something for the 4638364658th time you might want to headbut your desk too.

(And that's just on this thread, never mind all the previous ones)

But bishop, that's exactly what people do!! Honestly, if people just went 'you're a moron, whatever' then posts like this with 500 odd replies would just get nowhere.

Time is better spent explaining these things to people who actually want to hear it.

And I was being sarcastic like 'gee guys, why don't I start a parking thread so we can say the same things over and over again?!' I'm sure you're tired but I'm not against you here... You're trying to batter the wrong person. I point you to my post suggesting to the OP an alternative arrangement.

Only on MN do you get this scenario

Not really.

(god those bloody snidey, annoying, 'things you only hear on Mumsnet' threads, have a lot to answer for)

Icimoi, I don't think you read my post. I did say that the baby changer was in the disabled toilet. So why on earth could I not have toddler on the toilet and baby on baby changer simultaneously? There were NO baby changers anywhere else.

I did also say that I myself suffer with IBS, though that hasn't registered on your radar. I have suffered from it since childhood. I therefore do have cause to use whatever toilet is available. That is NOT an abuse of the facilities.

I once took my 2 year old NT dd into a disabled toilet. She was about to wet herself, there was a long queue at the ladies and an empty disabled toilet right next to it. Clearly people are not as 'entitiled' in our town as they were all queuing despite the empty toilet.

And very proud of it you sound. Well done.

Improved and better planned facilities is the best answer really.

I recently saw an example of how it can work at our local community hospital. There were half a dozen nice, wide cubicles. Wish there had been something like that when my children were small. Life would have been easier, but they are not even that common now, 12 years on.

virginia your poor DD. I do think a tiny child about to wet themselves is exceptional. It would be mean to let her wet herself.

And yy to better facilities. I'd like to see child sized loos.

So would you have just let your child wet themselves then Bishop?

You think it's never happened?
Of course it has. Then they have to sit in it in their wheelchairs until we can get them cleaned up.

Not all times so far are not so much use of toilets but selfish ARSEHOLES barging in front of us and not letting us in lifts to get to the toilets. Because you can't get a wheelchair up a flight of stairs.

There are numerous ways in which my children are humiliated by selfish people. It's because generally they're considered non people.

And you wonder why we get annoyed.

And try getting body fluids out of a wheelchair cushion.

WonderingWillow Mon 30-Mar-15 15:07:55
And yy to better facilities. I'd like to see child sized loos.

that would be good.

but parents need to fight for them. that is what happend to get these disabled toilets .

Two of our public disabled Loo's in our town have the baby change facility in them .

When DS was desperate and too young to wait for the toilet and there was a queue I said "I know it's cheeky but he is desperate" and every time people said "you go first"

No wet child, no need to use disabled toilet.

Don't people/children who are liable to soiling themselves regularly, wear some sort of protection (pads/pullups/nappies etc) rather than risk getting bodily fluids over their clothes and wheelchairs? There must always be the risk, as I said earlier that the disabled toilet will be occupied?

don't children??
i mean if a child can't wait , should they?

Why didn't your 2 year old have a pull up on then?

Some may, Virginia. But i think sometimes there is only so much a pad/incontinence pad/nappy can take. Also being in one's own mess isn't comfortable, pleasant or healthy for anyone.

YABU because as some people have pointed out, a disabled person waiting for the loo has no choice. The situation is inconvenient for you, I agree but nobody can reasonably argue that it's ok to use facilities for the disabled when you're not disabled.

I'm afraid I agree that disabled people are seen as non people. And people who don't have any experience of disability in their family don't understand the issues and what's more they just don't give a shit so they don't even bother to try.

Virgina This is Dawndonna's dd. You really take the biscuit, we can't go out, and if we do we should ensure we have some sort of protection. I'd like to say this in words of one syllable but unfortunately it's not possible. However, I'd like you to know that (although circumstances have infact been described earlier) it's none of your business what I do. However, just so that you do know for future reference, adult nappies and inco pads aren't free. A limited number are available on the nhs, same goes for larger childrens protection, so that comes out of our DLA if we need them.
However, and more importantly, how fucking dare you, yet again, comment on what we should or shouldn't be doing so that it makes life more convenient for able bodied people.Stop going on about what precautions we should have, it's none of your business.

Oh, and sitting in your own piss and shit breaks the skin down and causes infection. Pads don't draw it away.
Dawndonna's dd.