to think UKIP can no longer deny being racist

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We keep hearing about all these UKIP members and supporters in the news for their racist speech and articles.
Farage says he doesn't want racists in his party, but there is the photo of him drinking and grinning with one of the Chelsea mob who were filmed in Paris.
Apparently there will be more on the TV tonight.
It's time that all sensible people spoke out against these hateful characters.

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Too right previous poster.

I think we all need to remember these people grew up in a time where racism was acceptable. It's hard to change your conception of the world from one you have known since you were small.

That's possibly one of the most ignorant and offensive comments I have read on MN for a long time. My parents were out on the streets protesting against racism 50 years ago. It was not acceptable then and it is not acceptable now. It is incredibly patronising to suggest that older people are racist because they don't know any better.

As for nativity plays being banned - they haven't. Our very diverse school does one every year. The little boy playing Joseph last time happened to be a Muslim. I have never heard of any complaints and all of the Muslim kids join in quite happily, while their parents come to watch.

And pigs in story books? Seriously? Where the fuck do people get these ideas from?!

Racist, sexist homophobic policies...no thank you. I also don't truly believe if they got into power they'd control immigration to the extent they claim they will. There are EU laws that transcend British law, like it or not thats the way it is, not to mention human rights issues. Id like to see which party would really remove us from Europe..and miss all the business trading that would go by the wayside? I think not. MPs know where their bread is buttered. Its interesting that so many people find them believable, tho. As if they're any more likely not to renege on their promises than other political parties. I guess some are also so focused on immigration that theyd happily accept the misogynistic policies that go alongside that. However I have faith in the good sense of the majority of people in the UK that UKIP won't ever get in. Albeit a coalition wouldn't surprise me.

Seeking - I couldn't agree more.

Does anyone remember about ten years ago when Farage was in charge of suspending the entire north east UKIP committee? Someone had agreed to allow a BNP member to rejoin UKIP and be a candidate. A party that tackled racism would obviously want to suspend those people, no? Except it was the national party who had made that decision, while the north east committee objected strenuously, because they didn't want their party to welcome racist twats. I think the north east people ended up resigning from UKIP.

LoveMyCats that's a really interesting point which does highlight Labour's problem with being intellectual socialists now rather than grass roots socialists. Before the 1990s it was far more to do with representing the 'working' people and their needs. Somewhere along the line it moved away from that towards an intellectual idealism of being super fair to absolutely everyone and offending nobody.

UKIP aren't racist for gods sake i wish people would stop being so dramatic and trying to use the race card in every single political argument.

Martin Heale.
Rozanne Duncan.
Andre Lampitt.
Nigel Farage on Romanians.
Nigel Farage being co president of Europe of Freedom and Democracy group, along with Francesco Speroni who described Anders Breivik as someone whose 'ideas are in defence of western civilisation.
There there is Mario Borghezio, another member of the group who said:

"Long live the Whites of Europe, long live our identity, our ethnicity, our race… our blue sky, like the eyes of our women. Blue, in a people who want to stay white."

Not racist at all.

Oh dear, I would have said I was a 'White of Europe' but my eyes are not blue. I have dark green eyes and dark hair.

Might I be discriminated against under a UKIP government for looking too ... Celtic?

I agree with Giddy and Love that Labour have very effectively alienated a lot of their grass-roots support in the rush for us to all become middle class.

Ahh let's not forget the lovely Janusz Korwin-Mikke the head of KNP who believes men are more intelligent than women and he has actually said "women only pretend to say no to sex and their thoughts are influenced by seamen" and "women usually pretend that they don't want sex. The percentage of women who pretend they don't want to have sex, but they do want in fact, is about 30/40%." Oh yes and he thinks women should be denied the vote! This was all in relation to rape.

Then there are comments made by Iwaszkiewicz that his convinced that beating women would "help bring many wives back down to earth"

WTF these are the people Farage has aligned himself to. And people think UKIP are not racist, sexist or bigoted.. Please people do some research

Of course they are.
You only need to look at the number of racist speeches/writings/actions of UKIP supporters, compared with those of all the other parties combined.

You see, natureplantar, it's not 'trying to use the race card'. It's called evidence.