to think they should charge the Syria girls

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If they are indeed with terrorists in Syria then when a small chink of sense comes back to them and they want to come home, I hope they will be charged.

Mistress, I take it that you have read the article posted by Joyfull further down this thread then? About the purpose of girls and women in ISIS' new world order? It sure as heck has nothing to do with using weaponry.

duchesse

British women are amongst the most feared and take a prime role in the al-Khansa brigade, the female religious enforcement squad. They are known for their zealousness and sadism.

ISIS All-Female 'Police' Tortures Woman With Spiked Clamp on Chest For Breastfeeding in Public

British women oversee ISIS abuse, sexual slavery of Yazidi girls

If feeling revulsion that these girls are going to be partaking in the above is wrong, then I'm happy to be on this side.

You excuse away all you like (until of course they're back blowing you up. I'm sure when you and yours become a victim you'll change your tune). What does it matter if a few thousand others far away are tortured, killed and maimed by them. Its all just academic. Continue with your puffery.

oh right, so my "fact" that they went to Syria isn't a fact because I was convinced that was what had happened from the outset? Ok, that make sense.
You said I'm sounding racist
a fair few people said how so we know they're going to Syria, they could be going to a wedding / to turkey
a number of people said the girls should be supported and "reprogrammed" rather than criminalised
The only grammar thing I ever correct is the I / me thing. -if your argument in support of potential terrorists is made more secure by the fact I often type one handed as I'm bf'ing then fair enough, go ahead and feel better about the odd missed letter.

mistress shall we go and bang our heads against a wall together?

it sounds like how the female Nazis behaved in the concentration camps. nasty.

The BBC 10 O'Clock News said during its report on this that 30 British women are known to have travelled to IS-controlled Syria. I hadn't realised it was so many.

They are nasty evil bitches.
We know that many people are capable of cruelty when they are caught up in war through circumstances beyond their control. But these girls and women actively seek out the situation. Personally I couldn't care less about them, they have freely chosen their lifestyle. I just feel deeply sorry for their innocent victims.

So they are believed to have crossed the border now

Thought these were meant to be intelligent girls? Thick as mud springs to mind.....what a disgrace to this country.

What will the police do now? Leave them to their fate?

I'd hope they were left to it now. can't see the benefit of them returning to Britain, although an apologist might like to explain to me what their positive contribution to the country could be?

Thing is, now they've 'joined' the firm, it is not known what they've doing or will be doing. Will there be many survivors to give witness? Aren't there reports that female British recruits were training other women, meting out punishments and organising the slavery bit of ISIS? Helping out with the regime is aiding and abetting. If they are in any way complicit in actions involved with these, irrespective of their sex provision roles, they are guilty of human rights abuses. Abuses they have visited websites to view, so are well aware of what ISIS are about, and travelled large distances to be party to the regime that carries them out. But there may be no way of knowing exactly what they have been involved in.

And of course they are tech savvy and english speakers. Like the other girl from their school that went out. And that Scottish woman. Maybe they will contribute to the regime that way too. Web propaganda, videos and blogs.

Poor Syria and Iraq (and the others). More foreigners arriving to support the regime involved in their brutalisation and the decimation of peoples who have existed in the region for millennia such as the Yazidis and Christians. But it's anyone really isn't it.

I feel sorry for the parents. However, the portrayal of the girls with the teddy one gave her mom and the other girl whose sister was saying she didn't even bring her pink jammies (because she didn't bring anything) is slightly out of kilter with the organisation and duplicity involved in their journey. They all have good sized holdalls in the picture at the airport. They may have been advised to do it to appeal to the girls.

It is worrying the Turkish and British authorities didn't seem to connect earlier on this. Maybe they'll set up a better system of cooperation now.

To be fair evedallas, the op has been defending their opinion on the premise of if they where to join Isis if they should be charged.

The OP has been trying to argue posters being deliberately obtuse by wanting exact 'proof' and has been countering the argument that they didn't know what they was doing.

You didn't call the op racist, although you did imply you thought as much

No one said they weren't going to Syria, but with all the posts waiting for proof is alluding to such a mindset, bearing in mind the initial press release was along the lines of 'feared that they have gone to join isis'. If you think the authorities would release a statement like this before checking them out, then you haven't been following the snowden leaks.

No one has said they shouldn't be punished, although there has been a lot of posts that are precluding the statement with 'if it's true' or trying to downplay it with being teenagers who don't know what they are doing etc.

I think where the op is coming from, is that if they where to return then they should be held accountable.

people piled in saying they was to young/groomed and should be given a lighter touch and whilst the op did agree they pointed out the possibility that it is a grooming case as such(ifysim)

But they made a point that the alternative could also be said that the girls made a fully thought decision which may be related to culture/upbringing, this point that raised heckles without addressing the point directly

All my opinion of course and I have had a drink tonight so....

justanother you're pretty much on the mark

I very much hope this is the last we will hear about them.
Although I strongly suspect they will soon be on carefully audited social media to their friends saying what a wonderful time they are having, and 'please come and join us'.

I've been raped 30 times and it's not even lunchtime. I can't go to the toilet. Please bomb us.

• A young Yazidi Slave captured by ISIS

You'd think putting a stop to this is what would drive British muslims to go over. To fight IS, not to join them.

And no I'm not salivating and gleeful over their departure. On the contrary extremely saddened, sickened and ashamed that some members of my community - the Pakistani / Bangladeshi one, are going to be contributing to this misery and are once again bringing shame and vitriol on all the rest of us. So feck off everybody trotting out with the 'racist, UKIPers' trope.

mistressmia keep on speaking out. Respect to you.

I don't think we can glean anything from the appeals of the families. We are third down the list of intended audiences! Firstly the girls themselves, secondly ISIS (& all other radical using terrorist groups), and thirdly the British public.

And call me cynical but the news won't be aimed at telling us the absolute truth, it will either be about making headlines, or trying to direct public mood.

I love how this thread has gone
"if these people have gone to join ISIS I think they should be punished if they return"
" oh, stop revelling in their misfortune and salivating at the thought of their punishment and treatment at the hands of ISIS"
" how do we know they've gone over there, there's no proof"
"oh, they have definitely gone to Syria, well eff off you racist, anyway"

On the radio just now, a survey of over 1000 muslims has shown that 1 in 4 have sympathy for the motives of the Charlie hebdo killers.
Now that's frightening limited

I had to raise a wry grin at the twitter post of the Scottish recruiter one . She said

'Please read our blog before asking questions that have been answered . We ain't a call centre' sic

Almost like a support thread here - except it's bastard bloody Isis

Well those girls are screwed now as let's face it No one will go in and rescue them now .

I do feel for their families though , to lose your child and then not know how they are ... And to have so many judge you for it . Sadness

The police, obviously can't go into Syria. I don't think there's any shortage of orange jumpsuits. So, what happens to the girls now is out of the hands of anyone in Britain. This thread is going to run out soon. But, events have rendered the proposal in the title moot, anyway.

Just hope the government arent pressured into sending someone in on a daft rescue mission!

I think the authorities will be satisfied with getting the British soldier back from the Kurds.

I do feel for their families. They've chosen to go down a path with no return and although I don't have much sympathy for the girls, still 16 years is too young to appreciate the enormity of that I think.

The family of each girl should get someone like this fellow, Dimitri Bontinck, edition.cnn.com/2014/06/25/world/meast/syria-father-finds-son/ to try and get them out. If they will leave.

He does help other parents who want to get their children out.

www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2014/1221/Homegrown-jihadis-On-Syrian-border-Belgian-father-tracks-his-wayward-son