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miso soup with your 5 a day is a complete meal

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magrate · 12/02/2015 20:23

Dh is complaining that I did miso soup for dinner. It contains a bunch of spring onions, garlic, ginger, two big sweet potatoes, chilli, 2 cups of peas, a bunch of coriander, seaweed, 100g of ground up seasme and a big spoon full of fresh live miso. That's a complete meal right?

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CalamitouslyWrong · 13/02/2015 12:26

A bowl of miso ramen (such as you'd find in wagamamas) is not the same as a bowl of miso soup. The former has loads added to it (not least noodles) to make it a whole meal; the latter really is a side dish.

You may as well sit there smugly saying that your DH should gave been satisfied with a bowl of rice with a couple of sesame seeds and teeny slices of spring onion on top. After all, the japanese eat lots of rice. You can even get bowls of (fried) rice in wagamama and chinese restaurants.

A lot if the OP's posts feel a bit cargo cultish about the merits of a 'japanese volcanic islander' diet, tbh.

ChristyMooreRocks · 13/02/2015 12:35

Yes I am a bit Hmm at the 'well my DH would enjoy it and bloody well remember to thank me for the lovely soup in order to avoid my sulking for the rest of the evening but he might go and fill up on bread afterwards' posts.

Why not just make something satisfying in the first place?

MetallicBeige · 13/02/2015 12:42

I had to ask! and my lovely SIL (Japanese) agrees, it's not a main meal. It needs tofu, prawns, noodles or something.

She is teeny tiny and eats like a horse, she would in no way be 'wonderfully full' after that.

Pipbin · 13/02/2015 12:42

In Japan they drink 'English Tea'. It is nothing like tea we drink here. It tastes like rice pudding. But if you went into a restaurant in Japan or bought a hot can of it from a vending machine then you would get this stuff.
Would you think a Japanese person would be wrong if they said that it wasn't like tea drink in England because this is the tea they get in a restaurant. They too would be speaking on behalf of another nation.

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magrate · 13/02/2015 13:05

Ah well 90% will be on dh's side on this.

Noodles or tofu make the difference between something being a full meal or not Hmm the miso is just a stock anyway don't read too much into the name.

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magrate · 13/02/2015 13:06

I would never speak on behalf of a whole nation.

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mrsmilkymoo · 13/02/2015 13:10

I would say tasty but not filling enough for me. I need some carbs!

2rebecca · 13/02/2015 13:18

I always serve bread with soup. It sounds like a nice soup but isn't what I think of as "miso soup" if it has bits in, to me miso soup is a clear soup. It sounds like a miso based soup much as you get chicken stock based soups. I would do soup for lunch but not for dinner on its own unless we weren't hungry

Notso · 13/02/2015 13:29

This thread has really made me laugh like a drain thanks chocolateorsalad, CalamitouslyWrong and Pipbin

I had miso once when dieting. It tasted most unpleasant though maybe mine was dead miso.

LikeABadSethRogenMovie · 13/02/2015 14:04

But the OP did add stuff to it. Miso soup as a side dish is just miso, seaweed and tofu.

MaidOfStars · 13/02/2015 14:10

Oooh, egg in miso would really round it out for me (I am veggie and don't like tofu). Is it whisked in style (like you'd get in hot and sour soup) or boiled chunks or what?

CupidStuntSurvivor · 13/02/2015 14:22

If I serve a soup as a main meal in an evening, it's a very hearty, thick soup with plenty of protein and I serve lots of bread, cheeses and garnishes with it. If I'm honest, I'd eat what you made for lunch but I eat fairly lightly for lunch.

But if I was served it, I'd eat it without complaint and just get a snack an hour or so later when I became hungry.

CalamitouslyWrong · 13/02/2015 14:36

A few chunks of sweet potato and some peas floating in 2l of stock is at the tokenistic end of 'adding something' to your miso soup. The sesame paste might add a bit more protein, but it wouldn't make it much more satisfying.

MaidOfStars · 13/02/2015 15:08

Ooof, cupid, loaded with backhanded compliments there....Wink

fatlazymummy · 13/02/2015 15:21

Sesame doesn't have that much protein anyway. It's only 10% protein. Peas add a bit more (6%). It does really need a bit more protein such as fish, chicken or tofu.
Re your husband complaining, well yes he could get something himself but it shouldn't really be neccesary if one of you says they are 'doing dinner'. It's reasonable to expect a proper dinner.

CupidStuntSurvivor · 13/02/2015 15:56

Grin Maid not meant as either backhanded or as a compliment. Just that I don't object to soup for an evening meal as a rule but think it needs to be hearty.

KnittedJimmyChoos · 13/02/2015 16:33

not read thread but your soup sounds delicious, inspired me to make some sort of miso, tom yum soup this weekend. Grin Yum

limegoldfinewine · 13/02/2015 19:57

Don't know why the OP is rolling her eyes. Making herself look a bit thick. Plenty of studies about the psychology of liquid diets if not averse to the google.

Eating isn't just about the calorie content of something. Satiety matters. Chewing and swallowing can slow the time it takes to eat. Makes you feel fuller. Psychologically different to drinking calories. One of the reasons that reducing liquid calories is so critical to obesity crisis.

Also, the idea that it is preferable to get all your calories from things like sesame seeds is ridiculous. Why not just eat 4 tbsp of peanut butter for dinner if it's just about "calories"?

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magrate · 14/02/2015 13:58

How am I making myself look thick?

Actually I've seen studies where the same meal blended as a soup keeps people fuller for much longer. Not that is relevant as mine wasn't blended. Half the calories came from seeds, I think that is good. Better than nutrient void carbs.

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Eltonjohnsflorist · 14/02/2015 14:28

This is a funny thread. Like one meal makes some kind of health nut. OP who asked aibu despite being convinced she is not. People debating protein content of peas. Gold

fatlazymummy · 14/02/2015 14:31

100gs of sesame seeds contains 10gs of protein
100gs of wholemeal bread contains 21gs of protein.
I know which one I'd rather have with my soup.

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magrate · 14/02/2015 14:34

Apart from bread is basically shit in a slice and you have your numbers the wrong way around, again!

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grocklebox · 14/02/2015 14:39

Shit in a slice? You know NOTHING about food and nutrition. You know a,lot about sourcing wanky London ingredients, but thats not the same thing.

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magrate · 14/02/2015 14:43

Apart from the fact I have a dietitian qualification Grin

Fats figures are all wrong yet I'm the one getting it?

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Mixtape · 14/02/2015 14:47

OP, if you are a qualified nutritionist, I feel like you would have mentioned it earlier in the thread like I would, in a gloaty fashion

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