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to ask if you're pissed off with the Baby Boomers?

825 replies

DamFineBeaver · 08/02/2015 17:33

Because people who are currently young-ish adults (MN's main demographic?), and younger, will be paying for the lavish lifestyle they've enjoyed?
The money borrowed for their nice big pensions will be paid back by us and our children.

Does this mean they shouldn't spend so much time in Tenerife?

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Moniker1 · 08/02/2015 18:52

My parents' generation don't seem to realise that a lot of it was down to luck

But we weren't that lucky, no central heating, crap crap starting pay, 7 year apprenticeships on tuppence halfpenny until you could demand a full wage (it was assumed you lived at home), very few going to uni, not like now where everyone and their cat expects to, lots of jobs eg civil service or nhs poor pay, low prospects, professional people bought their own homes, but there weren't that many professional people, doctors, teachers, lawyers. Everyone else assumed they would rent.
Young people look at what they have (can't afford a house) and think they are so hard done by, I never dreamt of buying a house until after I married my DH, an engineer who'd worked abroad and saved money there, on my nhs salary I would have been 50 before I could have considered buying a house (assuming I worked constantly until then), oh, ok 40 then. I couldn't afford a car or foreign holidays at the time.
Why don't you move abroad for a better paid job like I did.

The opportunities and job opportunities for women were limited, think career advice being teaching, teaching or teaching, or secretary if you couldn't go to college.

And how can you predict what life will be like when you are 60.
We could have half the human population annihilated by disease or war and if you were a lucky survivor you would have all this wealth and houses for yourself, you might have 5 houses.

Stop complaining.

Davsmum · 08/02/2015 18:53

What a stupid topic.hating people for when they were born and whingeing they had it better than you have. Some will have had it not harder than you have, some will have had it easier.
They paid into pensions and provided for their future, some may not have done. Whatever the situation, you should think yourself lucky they bothered to have you, ungrateful and ungracious as you are.
Grow up. (And pray the next generation are not as stupid as you are)

Davsmum · 08/02/2015 18:56

Harder.... Not, 'not harder' !

DamFineBeaver · 08/02/2015 18:58

you should think yourself lucky they bothered to have you, ungrateful and ungracious as you are.
Grow up. (And pray the next generation are not as stupid as you are)

Grin
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FaFoutis · 08/02/2015 18:58

you should think yourself lucky they bothered to have you, ungrateful and ungracious as you are.
Grow up.

Is that you mum?

entiledornot · 08/02/2015 18:58

They didn't pay for their pensions. They paid into a pyramid scheme.

TheFecklessFairy · 08/02/2015 18:59

entitledornot - that's because the Gubbmint is phasing out state pensions. You pay into a private pension nowadays if you want a retirement fund.

I am not well off. Only own half my home (due to having a disabled child), no cruises, no private pension (because I got Carers Allowance and couldn't work and pay into one). When I wanted to buy a house in the 60s I was earning £8 a week and the cheapest house was £2,500. So don't you tell me I am well off. And it's 'you're', not your.

tobysmum77 · 08/02/2015 18:59

I think personally it's quite telling these threads keep coming up. My mother (a bb) says things were much easier for them. My Dad had an equitable life pension btw which they saw as purely inconvenient, it meant he had to work till the grand old age of 65.

Just waiting for the 'don't buy Costa coffee' posts.

I'm under 40 and we're alright too, not that far off being mortgage free but the idea of being in debt while needing a 50k deposit to buy a house fills me with horror. But hey dh and I worked hard so thats the key Hmm (but tbf I did have a 'proper job' and a mortgage by 23 when others were still travelling.....)

I think very young people have it tough.

Davsmum · 08/02/2015 19:00

The babyboomer who raised you did a piss poor job.

Moanranger · 08/02/2015 19:05

entitled I do not follow your logic? Do you believe there will be no state pension? I would not agree. There is a lot of scaremongering about this, but I am fairly confident that is secure. Only ca £140 per week ; doesn't buy a lot of lavish!

Norland · 08/02/2015 19:09

Am I being unreasonable to ask if you're pissed off with the Baby Boomers?

No, you are not being unreasonable to ask.

You are however, extremely fortunate to have received so many responses to what is clearly - in my view - a very poorly phrased question, indicative of the standard of education currently displayed by anybody born post-1974.

You could also consider the different meanings of the words 'dam' and 'damn'

Ubik1 · 08/02/2015 19:12

The babyboomer who raised you did a piss poor job.

That's a bit mean

Sollers · 08/02/2015 19:13

Can I ask what a baby boomer is exactly? I'm 40. Is a bb my parents's generation or something in-between?

hiddenhome · 08/02/2015 19:13

I have to deal with them through work because I nurse their parents. I often find that they're demanding, arrogant, overly critical and very impatient. They just don't give us a chance. I hope I've retired by the time they come through the system as elderly people.

tilder · 08/02/2015 19:13

Is this for real? Or just research for a story? Op really wants specific questions answered.

entiledornot · 08/02/2015 19:14

There won't be a state pension in the future that resembles anything what its like now. Will be for 80+ and have to contribute for 50 years probably. My mum got it from 60 despite never really working.

SoupDragon · 08/02/2015 19:16

You are only entitled to be pissed off at a generalisation of an entire generation if you are currently ensuring that you are doing nothing that might be construed as screwing over subsequent generations.

Norland · 08/02/2015 19:16

Tilder said: Is this for real?

My first thought was 'research' as in;

'....a survey on Mumsnet.com, revealed, 92% of folk under 40, thought those born after the war and before 1962, were greedy, grasping, selfish old ba5tards, who were grinding the hip-youngsters of today, into poverty and misery....'

DamFineBeaver · 08/02/2015 19:20

No, this is not research. I'm just interested.

(I am a researcher by profession, though, so it may be that the language creeps in Smile)

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DamFineBeaver · 08/02/2015 19:21

FaFoutis Grin that literally made me inhale biscuit.

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Ubik1 · 08/02/2015 19:21

The facts remain that young people are squeezed like never before. Rents are astronomical, student debt is formidable, no job security , home ownership a pipe dream.

And equity in parents houses will go on care home fees. Friend had been left with nothing. Everything her parents saved plus the house have been taken to pay fir her care home (dementia) . And with love - she sees her mother almost every evening.

JT05 · 08/02/2015 19:22

In 1992 our mortgage was 30% of our sons mortgage we were paying £ 100 less than he does per month? But our house hold income was 10 grand less than his! You do the maths.

timer · 08/02/2015 19:22

This again? Anyone who is happy to generalise about anyone is a prick Wink

Some baby boomers have had it fairly easy, generally. Some haven't. The ones who've had it easy, well, it's not their fault. What do you want them to do? Give it all back??

FaFoutis · 08/02/2015 19:29

You do the maths
Those who were unfortunate enough to receive the standard of education bestowed upon anybody born post-1974 may need some help with that.

The ones who've had it easy, well, it's not their fault. What do you want them to do?
Be nicer.

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