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to ask if you're pissed off with the Baby Boomers?

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DamFineBeaver · 08/02/2015 17:33

Because people who are currently young-ish adults (MN's main demographic?), and younger, will be paying for the lavish lifestyle they've enjoyed?
The money borrowed for their nice big pensions will be paid back by us and our children.

Does this mean they shouldn't spend so much time in Tenerife?

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Unescorted · 08/02/2015 18:08

Damfine - no I am not under their boots, they will die and the equity they have built up in their properties will be released. Either to be spent by the baby boomer +1 generation or taxed to pay back the debt. It is not the baby boomers fault we as a generation borrow too much to pay for our houses and accept too low wages for the work we do. If anything we are sqandering the opportunity we have been given to make a change by being too politically apathetic.

ClashCityRocker · 08/02/2015 18:09

I'd have done the same. They didn't do anything that we aren't trying to do now, they were just fortunate to do it at the right time.

paxtecum · 08/02/2015 18:10

Op, maybe in a few years time when you retire, you might like not to draw the pension that you are entitled to.
You could go and be homeless at Heathrow.

ClashCityRocker · 08/02/2015 18:10

grimble well said.

PtolemysNeedle · 08/02/2015 18:12

No, I'm not angry with the so called baby boomers. For a start, life wasn't much if a 'boom' for many people that age, it was just people living normally within the society that surrounded them. As many younger people continue to do now.

There are groups of people that are worth getting angry at, people who as individuals have made individual choices that aren't good for society. But people who worked and saved, paid off mortgages and then got rewarded well for that are not on that list.

Bowlersarm · 08/02/2015 18:12

Does this mean they shouldn't spend so much time in Tenerife ooh, miaow,OP. Tsk, tsk.

peabodyrocks · 08/02/2015 18:19

These threads always make me laugh. As if the "baby boomers" could predict the future or that all of us wouldn't take advantage of the same situitions if they were presented to us today.

Right place right time - it's just that simple. it's not their fault things aren't the same now.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/02/2015 18:19

They "never had it so good"
Good for them
But I do get irritated by the views of some my DM who think they are simply deserving of their good fortune by virtue of their "hard work" and that if only younger ppl would learn to save then they too could have a large detached house paid off in their early forties.
I mean, what do they think ppl earn for what now would be considered pretty mediocre jobs in comparison with house prices?

Viviennemary · 08/02/2015 18:21

There are winners and losers in all generations. Many OAP's are quite hard up and a lot of people won't have good private pensions. I looked up exactly what a baby boomer is. People born between 1946-1964. Lots of them won't be near retirement age yet. So all this envy is a bit pointless. I do think though that house prices are too high and have been kept so for reasons that I don't really understand.

morethanpotatoprints · 08/02/2015 18:26

I'm not angry neither.
You have no idea what the future holds for you yet if you are young.
Its a very narrow minded and bitter attitude tbh.
I often wonder when the young people of today have gc what they will say about this generation.
It's easy to judge past generations when you have no idea what their lifestyle was like.
YABVVVU

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DamFineBeaver · 08/02/2015 18:29

It really is interesting to see the responses to what I continue to think is a valid issue. Even if you have discussed it (and solved it - right?) before.

that's a bitter attitude

I just get pissed off at posters starting vile threads

Oh God. Not this again!

suckers like the op

how stupid the OP is… should be deleted

Yawn

What pisses me off is goady fuckers who keep starting threads on this

Again, I'm really not slagging off your mum.

I think the balance of evidence is that economic trends over the lives of the "baby boomer" generation have ON AVERAGE left subsequent generations worse off.

Whether or not this makes us feel anger towards people of that generation was my question.

Clearly the question makes people feel angry with me, which is interesting and a little bemusing. I'll recommend this topic to anyone with hairy knuckles I find under a bridge.

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DamFineBeaver · 08/02/2015 18:31

Bowlersarm Grin

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peabodyrocks · 08/02/2015 18:33

But *TheRealAmandaClarke" just because your DM is ignorant does not mean everyone else her age is!

scottgirl · 08/02/2015 18:35

It's easy to judge past generations when you have no idea what their lifestyle was like

We do know what their lifestyle was like, we are their children and were there for most of it.

entiledornot · 08/02/2015 18:36

Yep I'm pissed off with them for being so greedy, many people like paxman and my parents are ashamed to be part of the most greedy and selfish generation ever.

I'm planning to move abroad to stop funding other peoples lifestyle that I won't be able to get myself :)

FaFoutis · 08/02/2015 18:37

I'm not pissed off with them for economic reasons, but I don't like them.

entiledornot · 08/02/2015 18:38

Just to add the bb probably won't be around for that long, due to them never knowing lean times their health is significantly worse than their parents so probably many won't make it past 80.

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DamFineBeaver · 08/02/2015 18:38

FaFoutis Grin

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Jackieharris · 08/02/2015 18:40

My parents are baby boomers and yes their life was much easier than mine and DP's is.

Fair enough, it's not really their fault, they never voted for the parties who got us into this mess.

But I do get annoyed when they try to make out like young families have it easier now 'because we all have iPads'.

Yes hey had higher interest rates but their houses cost a fraction!

Yes their savings are now earning low interest but my DCs dont even know what savings are!

morethanpotatoprints · 08/02/2015 18:46

Scottgirl

Wow, that's a talent being able to see how the whole of a generation lives.
Tell me how you do it.

OP, I am the next generation they haven't left me worse off, in fact I think our generation are doing just fine.

HowCanIMissYouIfYouWontGoAway · 08/02/2015 18:46

what do you think they should have done differently?
what can you see being the problems that the next generation or 2 will face because of choices we are currently making and what do you think we should therefore choose not to do (and are you choosing not to?)

People make the choices that seem the best ones at the time. That's all any of us can do. I'm sure they didn't do things going haHA, this'll really fuck the kids over...

Moanranger · 08/02/2015 18:47

I am a baby boomer. I have no company pension. I have no civil service pension. I had money in equitable life, which went under. I will have the state pension, which I have elected to take at 70. In the meantime, I will work, & continue to put as much as I can into a private pension.
Baby boomers who lucked out with either a final salary scheme ( almost non-existent now) or a civil service pension have done well. I am not one of themI am 62 now, will work for another 8 years ; no cruises, lavish (or any, really) holidays for me. But I want to be sure that when I am really old, I can afford a comfortable-ish life.
So, OP, I share your ire, a bit, with those on good pensions, but don't assume all, or even many, baby boomers fall into that category.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/02/2015 18:48

Yy jackie

entiledornot · 08/02/2015 18:49

Moan your lucky to be able to retire at 70 with a state pension. Hardly anyone in the generation after will be able to do that.

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