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to think you can't claim to be homeless living in an airport if your income is £1400 a month

444 replies

dhdjdbrjrkbr · 07/02/2015 11:15

Strange DM story today, nothing adds up

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2943251/Homeless-Heathrow-look-holiday-truth-middle-class-couple-living-airport-losing-500-000-home.html#article-2943251

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 09/02/2015 15:01

Now, noddy, you know it's not all about the B&B (or the £1400/month, or turning down work because you just cannot be parted from your partner (who, it appears, worked abroad for long stretches at a time) or hundreds of thousands of pounds that have been swallowed up in the dreadful downward spiral that is the cost of living) Hmm

OnceUponATimeAgain · 09/02/2015 15:47

If i were one of the B&B owners, i would be speaking VERY publicly to say i am not and never have been connected with these 2 people.....

wouldnt you???

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 09/02/2015 15:58

Once yes, I would. I wouldn't want to be associated with what has become such a controversial story. Odd that they haven't Hmm

expatinscotland · 09/02/2015 16:01

Did they go on Loose Women or not? I watched the beginning, they were not featured as being in the line up.

noddyholder · 09/02/2015 16:05

They weren't on Loose women apparently

Taz1212 · 09/02/2015 16:51

I feel like I'm waiting for some sort of bizarre punchline. Hmm I'm tempted to email the guy I used to know who is listed as a team member on their vagimisimum (can't remember the company name now and can't be bothered looking it up!) web page and ask him WTF it's all about but suspect he's been bombarded with emails from nosy people like me. Grin

Eve117 · 09/02/2015 17:30

So ONCE, if you had a full time job/ business to run to earn living you would try to defend yourself to the very same people whos job is to print lies without a shred of evidence. The only journalust so far rwho apoears to do proper investigation is Martin Robbins from Newsstatesman and nit jyst regarding the B&B but everything else.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 09/02/2015 17:50

I can't answer for Once, but yes, as a business owner I would make a statement disassociating myself from this story. I think most people would, it can hardly be good for their reputation.

Vastra · 09/02/2015 17:56

I'm a bit disappointed they weren't on LW, I recorded it to watch after work (yes, sad case, I do realise). The FB announcement was pulled, but the tweet remains as at 17.49.
twitter.com/loosewomen/status/564380638963572736?s=17
What is the word for fascinated and intrigued but in a bad way? Whatever it is, I haven't been this much of it since canoe man.

Pipbin · 09/02/2015 18:05

The tweet has been pulled too now. What did it say?

Vastra · 09/02/2015 18:18

Not much, but...

Loose Women (@loosewomen) tweeted at 11:10am - 8 Feb 15:

Tomorrow we chat to a UK couple who've been sleeping at Heathrow airport after being left homeless, 12.30pm @ITV pic.twitter.com/o9WKVJuKKc (twitter.com/loosewomen/status/564380638963572736?s=17)

Get the official Twitter app at twitter.com/download?s=18

The pic referenced was from the DM, same as on the Go Fund Me page.

Melty · 09/02/2015 20:09

Well, I earn more than 1400 per month, but its all relative. You spend what you earn etc etc
I knew I'd have to move out of my current flat at the end of this tenancy, and I dont have a lot of spare cash once the bills are sorted, so I saved. That's what people do.
Haemorrhaging money at the moment, with months rent, plus 6 weeks deposit, plus agents fees, plus moving costs, and the overlap into the new flat means paying two lots of rent and council tax at once.
I will be so glad when its March again. Grin

Anyway, my point is, these people (if not con artists or scammers) are being ridiculous. It is possible to get a room for the 100 quid a month that they spend on 2 nights B&B.....then when sorted, save for the deposit on a "grown up " place. Then they can talk to a debt management company about that loan.

Heres another interesting perspective:
midlifesinglemum.blogspot.co.il/2015/02/the-couple-sleeping-at-heathrow-her.html

Eve117 · 09/02/2015 21:10

Saskia
Lucy Osborne from Daily Mail visited the B&B spoke to the owner and was not interested in the facts let alone reporting it and told the owner into her face without realising guests were present. since the owners are more than 20 years younger than the couple featured have run the business for more than 6 years and therefore doesn't fit the narrative of the story let alone DM correcting the story.
TripAdviser states that Carlton Kirby from Eurosport and his colleagues are among past guest why does Lucy/ Jennifer not contact them as well? Inconvenient truth from follow journalists?! Most likely

looknow · 09/02/2015 21:51

Katrina Eve Have you donated yet?

Pipbin · 09/02/2015 22:09

Eve the B&B is not the point. The main story remains the same.

Mintyy · 09/02/2015 22:13

Well I never did and cor love a duck etc. What an amazing coincidence that an Alan and Katrina run a B&B near Heathrow. Are they going to make themselves known? They could do really well out of this story because iirc all the reviews on Trip Advisor were excellent. Perhaps the DM could do a story on the B&B owners Alan and Katrina and how strange it is to be caught up in all this.

Eve117 · 09/02/2015 22:15

Looknow Lucy
Let's not get the facts in the way of a story.
And no I am not called Katrina.
As stated previously the facts and the truth when inconvenient are irrelevant

Eve117 · 09/02/2015 22:19

mintyy
Not everyone wants to be in newspapers especially DM

Mintyy · 09/02/2015 22:29

Its funny that they don't want to clear it all up though? They could do it another newspaper. I expect we'll hear from them sooner or later.

looknow · 09/02/2015 22:30

Lucy?
Who the hell is Lucy?

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 09/02/2015 22:31

I see the New Statesman article eliminates the B&B stuff but he's still highly unimpressed with them, Eve, isn't he?

looknow · 09/02/2015 22:34

Ha Ha, Lucy from the DM. Could not be further from the truth.
Surely a bit unwise to bite the hand that feeds?

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 09/02/2015 22:35

Eve As I said earlier, I really don't care about the B&B, whether they own it or not, it doesn't take anything away from the original story that two people with enough money to rent a home are claiming to be destitute in a national newspaper. They clearly aren't and anyone who thinks they are is massively out of touch with both genuine homelessness, and the incredibly low incomes that huge numbers of people in this country are living on.

Saying that, the B&B issue is very odd, I am genuinely surprised the actual owners haven't made a statement to disassociate themselves from the airport couple.

Eve117 · 09/02/2015 23:24

Saskia
The B&B owners were spoken to by Lucy Osborne from DM who was not entirely interested who run the business or in the fact that they have nothing to do with the couple in the article and therefore should not have been associated with the story to begin with.
Cannot see Lucy reporting that one anywhere. Why? Not even admitting she visited the B&B on Sunday afternoon. So what chances do the owners have with DM as they have spoken to the very person who wrote the article?! None.

expatinscotland · 09/02/2015 23:40

OK, Eve, so you are fixated on this whole B&B issue and not anything else in this 'story' that just doesn't seem to add up to so many posting here.

Let me tell you something about the people on this board.

In November, 2011, my daughter, the eldest of our 3, then age 8, had a bruise that went vastly awry. New to FB but not to MN (I have been on MN since 2004), nearly all my friends then bar family members, were MNers. I posted a photo of this bruise, asking if I should ask emergency appointment to GP.

The overwhelming answer was yes.

Suffice it to say, less than 3 days later, she was diagnosed with acute myeloid leukaemia and admitted to the nearest childrens' hospital to our rural home. This is at least 2 hours away from our home.

We had two younger children, one of whom is autistic.

We had nothing. No property to sell, never had, no savings, no pension or annuity, my husband a zero hours job he worked all the hours God sends, ineligible for benefits if he left voluntarily, which he had to do as his parents were 100 miles away and in very ill health and mine are abroad so no one to help look after our autistic son, then age 3 and little daughter who was 6, until the 3 months had passed for her to qualify for DLA (it is 3 months unless they are terminal. Ironically, she died 7 months and 29 days following her diagnosis, living less than many who were diagnosed terminal at the outset).

CLICSargent (Ronald McDonald house would not take us as we were onco and there was CLIC house) offered us a room after a month's wait. Our son with his condition pulled the room apart by 2am. Shared housing is unsuitable.

There was no B&B that allowed guests to use the washing machine. Really? I had to put my daughter's vomit-covered clothes (chemo makes people sick) in a suitcase and roll it all a mile away to the nearest laundrette. That place, when I rang them after months of using self-serve, to ask if they had a pick-up service, because my child was in ICU, she asked me why. And I told her in tears. You want to talk charity? The company van came and collected, wouldn't take any money though I offered.

The people on this board came through.

They helped. Food, company, help. It wasn't £9200 or anywhere near it was worth far more. They were there. They brought food, they helped.

Our daughter died on 7 July 2012. Her funeral and wake was like an MN meetup. It really was. People were there, all through it.

You want to know what gets peoples' backs up about this 'story'?

Not the whole B&B issue, but that there are many, many people on this board who live hand-to-mouth, working, carers, the disabled, those who have never had the chance to gain qualifications like this couple, much less house after house, deal after deal and hundreds of thousands of pounds at their disposal to secure accommodation. People who work in the NHS or the council who cannot afford to privately rent FA in tens of miles of their work, threatened homeless and homeless. Young people leaving care who have had the life of shit. Women who have never known anything but abuse and rape.

And £1400/month? Eligible for assistance, but come on like some great big sob story?

For real?

If you spent any length of time here, and read even Food/Recipes threads here, you would see what a great, big, ugly slap in the face it is for A LOT of people here.

One person said we should feel ashamed?

FUCK that! What a shame, how things have become, for the disabled and carers in this country, of which this couple are neither. What a shame, how budgets are slashed for, and how marginalised have become, the disabled and sick here.

These people are not needy.