people that look at other peoples homes / pension etc with jealousy are abhorrent

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Does anyone else get this allot? It seems many (younger) people have little interest in earning something and building a career, they just want everything handed to them on a plate

TBH-I can get a bit abhorrent at times (after visiting people who live in mini-mansions!) And I'm old-Old and abhorrent

Old and abhorrent is the worst ;)

No, we don't want it all on a plate.

To be honest, right now many of us would love to just have a plate.

This may surprise you, OP, so you may want to sit down, but do you know what else?

We don't all just sit at home doing fuck all all day waiting for the world to come to us.
And we don't get a free house handed to us if we have children young.

I'm abhorrent.
Wish I'd been born 30 years earlier so I would have been handed a mortgage on a plate like my parents were. And a student loan that I didn't have to pay back. And cheaper childcare.
As it stands, dh and I work extremely hard in highly skilled academic (but public service) jobs just to feed our children and pay our rent. We are most certainly not poor but it is definitely not as easy for us as it was for our parents. We will never be able to buy a property. We won't be able to retire until we're in our 90s.

Usually I go about my day feeling thankful that I am so lucky to be born in a country which gave me an education, free healthcare and the right to democratically elect our leaders. And then a see a nasty goady post like this and realise that things aren't perfect for us and occasionally I feel jealous of other people.

To summarise OP; ODFOD.

Here we go again. In whose interest is this divide and rule stuff? There are rich/poor/lucky/unlucky throughout the generations. Some older people had it really tough. Some didn't. Some younger people have it really tough. Some are fine.

YABU

PS - I frequently suffer from house and pension envy!!

I'm even jealous of people who have plates. Bastards. I'm still waiting for someone to hand me mine.

I think its so hard for younger people these days and I can't see it getting any better. When it comes to my children getting their foot on the property ladder it will be far far harder for them than it was for me. Yabu op.

Oh no its not dino, its just young people spend 20 pounds a month on a phone. That's why they can't afford a house 10x their income and the don't work hard enough, thats why wages are staying low.

I'm fairly certain £20 a month won't buy you a house. What insane prejudice-filled fantasy world are you living in?

I have house and pension envy. I work hard and always have, often for shit pay. Now, at the age of 50 I have a two bed flat with a mortgage that runs u til I'm 70, no savings and a pension which will be a couple of hundred quid a year.
Damn fucking right i have envy.
As do my two 20 something daughters who work in pubs and coffee shops to get them through their degrees and also have no savings or homes of their own!

I believe that was sarcasm, Guybrush - Although with views like the OP's about, its a risky approach!

I agree with dementedma I am in my 50s with a huge mortgage - average paid job for long hours with a lot of responsibility
I support my 2 children whilst they study and will never be able to retire as my pension won't even pay the gas bill
I envy people of all ages who are in a better financial position that doesn't mean I hate them just that I would like to be one of them
Would love to go on holiday - change my 15 yr old car - do home improvements etc etc
Btw most of my financial situation is down to relationship breakdowns (the law does not always favour women or even the non cheating partner)

Its sad that you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic

Tough -he must have had an extremely well-paid job and paid in for a long time. His is definitely not a typical public sector pension, believe me!
Of course half of this will be money he paid into the scheme himself through his contributions-so effectively savings. I get that it is still costing a lot.
I called it a private pension to distinguish from the state pension-perhaps I got the terminology wrong.
I have a public sector pension which is £8000 after 30 years(6 of them part time). I was on a salary of just over £30,000 when I retired-I think this is more typical.

I don't do envy of what others have because I find it gets you nowhere.
However, I'm happy to concede that I was born at the right time, bought first house at the right time and even though times have been tough lucky to be able to cut cloth accordingly.
I appreciate what I do have and count my blessings that our dc are healthy.
We don't have pensions but have been able to make a little provision.

I find the younger generation in general, very hard working and not overly fussed about owning houses and why should they be?

What makes me laugh is the older generation who actually believe that hard work was getting in at 9, having a full lunch hour, leaving at 5 and going on strike every other month. My mum being one and as for my dad, his job consisted of going on a night shift at 10 doing an hrs work if he could be bothered and then sleeping on the job til 6am. He might get woken up twice a week to go to a call out....

Bring back these days I say!

As said before "the younger generation" and "the older generation" are not homogeneous groups.
Some people of all ages work hard-some are lazy,- some are well off,some are poor.
The baby boomer generation overall was fortunate in some ways but many of the generalisations about attitudes etc are just that and not accurate.

I believe the average public sector pension is about £7,000. Less for women.

Mind you, the op is totally unreasonable too. It's hard for young people - I'm well aware of that.

Not "anti-youth" again

Handed what on a plate? There's nothing to put on it

Clearly a totally goady OP.

Don't let it get to you.

Why oh why can people not tell the difference between the word "jealousy" and the word "envy"?

Education those days