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AIBU?

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To be so hurt and upset by friend's timing?

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Notmymuse · 29/01/2015 14:52

We've just found out cycle 3 of ivf had failed.
Not that many people know we've had ivf but more do now than when I had the first cycle. The first cycle was exciting even though it was scary, now I feel worn out and jaded by it all. And in some ways it seems less of a thing I want to keep secret - I've started to feel like if more people spoke about it it wouldn't be so taboo.

Anyway I've told four friends this time round, including one who loves round the corner from me. She has an older child and had a new baby at the start of December. I've been to see her and her baby, attended the baby shower and taken gifts etc, I've really tried to separate my failure from her happiness and have done a reasonable job I think.
She texted me this morning to see if I wanted to meet over the weekend and asked if I had any news re this cycle. I told her that sadly we'd just discovered it had failed again. She texted back, usual platitudes - no one can say anything to help really and nor do I expect them to - and we arranged to meet next week.

I return from work to find a letter through the door. It's a birth announcement for said friend's daughter.
The picture on the front is several of the baby with a little rhyme about ten tiny fingers and toes and inside is a photo of both children and it says:

We are thrilled to announce the arrival of x to complete our family.
We have been truly blessed.

And then gives baby's birthday, weight etc.

I can't stop crying over the bloody thing. 'We have been truly blessed' feels like a kick in the teeth. As opposed to what? ive been tryly cursed? Why did she put it through today? Baby is eight weeks old - I've seen her a number of times - I don't need a bloody birth announcement.

Aibu to find this exceptionally thoughtless almost to the point where I can't believe she's done it? I suppose I could blame it on being wrapped up in the newborn but I'd like to think that if it were the other way around I'd have a little more tact.

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Trooperslane · 29/01/2015 20:01

I'm so sorry op.

YADDDNBU

Been there.

Have a good cry and a big glass of wine and hug your DP in front of a daft movie tonight.

Massive hugs. I didn't get it either and was a shit friend to people (we weren't trying for kids yet) but boy did I get a kick up the arse when we spent the best part of a decade trying.

It's totally shit.

Kisses and big, big hugs.

Theresadogonyourballs · 29/01/2015 20:13

You're not being unreasonable at all - I'm so sorry to hear you've been unlucky with your ivf.
I've been there - after my first cycle failed I confided in a (male) friend how down I was feeling. He responded by saying," oh, sorry to hear that", then proceeded to whip out several pictures of his wife's 12 week scan. I went home and bawled my eyes out. Be kind to yourself. X

JenniferGovernment · 29/01/2015 21:34

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mysteryfairy · 29/01/2015 21:38

I bet she gave her DH the card to put through ages ago and it is just really really miserable timing he got round to it today. I think this should be your first assumption as I just can't imagine anyone doing it deliberately or having that little imagination and sensitivity. You've got a really difficult situation to deal with and what's happened is horribly hurtful but I'm sure unintentionally so.

Coumarin · 29/01/2015 21:49

Notmy We've had 5 fresh cycles of ivf. All failed. You have my utmost sympathy and my heart goes out to you. Unfortunately the majority of those who haven't experienced infertility and everything that goes with it, really don't get how difficult it is. Either they can't because it's such a unique set if feelings and emotions that nothing else compares to really or they don't want to.

I do to think you're being unreasonable. You can feel however you want to after the crap you've been dealing with. I'm sorry you're hurting. xx

Coumarin · 29/01/2015 21:51

I don't think you're being unreasonable.

Stupid autocorrect.

christinarossetti · 29/01/2015 21:53

I'm sorry to hear that your ivf wasn't successful.

How utterly shit.

The card through the door was incredibly insensitive - do people even do that these days? I thought Social Media took care of all that.

You're right - it's the 'we've been blessed' bit that particularly stings, especially as you knew the weight, date etc.

I guess one way to look at it is that something or more than one thing was going to reduce you to despair, rage and tears after your ivf experiences, and this happened to be it. Hopefully, some of that emotion is better out than in.

Although I would have to say something to her about how insensitive the card was. It's not just the timing; it's unkind and selfish to shove your healthy baby in the face of someone desperately ttc.

NeedABumChange · 29/01/2015 21:58

YABU.

Her having a baby has no impact on whether you can. You sound self obsessed. Can you no longer feel joy for a friend and her new baby?

Coumarin · 29/01/2015 22:01

Just remembered. When we were doing the second round of ivf a friend text to ask how it went, (think she thought you did it in one day), I replied that it had worked but I'd had a miscarriage. Her reply was "oh, that's a shame. Harry's eating his first pancake! Look how funny his face is!" accompanied with a photo of her 18 month old that she'd just taken. I sat on the floor and sobbed for about an hour.

Some people are so wrapped up on their own bubbles. Flowers

adora1985 · 29/01/2015 22:01

YANBU, you've seen the baby and congratulate your friend, which is more than some women who've gone through what you've gone through would feel up to. There was no need to send you the announcement, the baby was born 8 weeks ago, who is there left to announce the birth to who wouldn't already know?

Pat1ence · 29/01/2015 22:09

YANBU. Every poster who says you are have obviously never been through the months and years of crushing disappointment and desolation that infertility brings.

I posted something along similar lines a few days ago, insensitive fertile friend. It's very tough, seeing people around you get the only thing you want and it can feel like they're forcing it down your throat. PPs have mentioned that people who haven't experienced it, don't understand it. Ignorance is bliss.

Is there any chance her DH could have had the card in the car a while and only realised today? Either way, I don't see why you'd need a birth announcement through the door when you've already met baby! It's insensitive and unforgivable. I'm about to start 1st IVF and don't expect to see some of my friends in the same light at the end of my journey, whatever the outcome. If it was intentionally posted today, I'd distance myself from you're so called friend. Good friends would empathise.

So sorry to hear it didn't work Flowers

evelynj · 29/01/2015 22:12

Needabum-can you not feel empathy for a woman who is going through a difficult time?

Op, I'm so sorry this happened. Perhaps if u feel up to it, you could be honest & say 'thanks for the card-obv I'm delighted for you but timing of card couldn't have been worst & it had me in tears.' Then just leave it open for her to respond & explain. I hope this was just an awful cock up & she redeems herself. Look after yourself x

naty1 · 29/01/2015 22:14

Yanbu
Its insensitive.
I wouldnt keep it anyway.
It could be she held onto it till she spoke to you and when she did you seemed fine so dropped it off.
We never told people about ivf while doing it only after success and then only announced at 20w after scan. It all just seems so uncertain. We've always told our parents though. Its not being ashamed of it, its just dealing with people being uncomfortable with you. Judgement over 'free' nhs rounds. Whether its morally right etc when their opinion is really not relevant.
But also when people are really fertile themselves they cant really feel what it would be like to have the choice taken away the stress that lasts for years.
But overall its not worth getting wound up over this. Focus on you and dp and what you can / need to do before another cycle, if you choose to do that.
You cant really easily compare success or lack of it to other couples as we all seem to get very different nos of eggs/mature/fertilised and to blast. Some people get pg from 1 good quality day 3 and others not from a load of top quality blasts.
It can be age, or bad luck or something else going on.
The stats for my clinic were like 60% for set. But actually only people with the best embryos were pushed to blast etc so my own chance of sucess was more like 40% even with 2 embryos.
My clinic pushed me not to change anything even though id never really done that well on those meds but had in my opinion 1 lucky embryo. I changed meds, stimmed longer and while not a huge difference i was looking at 5 fertilised, compared to 1-2 in 1st round.
I hate ivf as they dont know why it works/ or why it doesnt. Which is very hard for such a medical process. And also when youre paying its hard to know when to stop.

minginjean · 29/01/2015 22:22

Oh fuck off.... Sleep induced fog my ass.
She either deliberately posted a well overdue birth announcement through your door or her DH did it by mistake and she currently has no idea.
I'm so sorry for what you are going through. It's not easy.

Notmymuse · 29/01/2015 22:31

I do object slightly needa to being called 'self-obsessed' and in fact I could argue that my friend is the one who is self obsessed if she didn't take a moment to think 'Muse has found out this week that her third ivf has failed, maybe I won't put this lovely card with my perfect family through her door today.'

I have absolutely done my best to be totally happy for her, I am aware her success has no bearing on my failure. But I could really really have done without seeing that card today accompanied by the 'complete family' 'we've been blessed' wording.
Even just a photo with the baby's details on it wouldn't have been anywhere near as upsetting.

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BobbyButtons · 29/01/2015 22:31

Her having a baby has no impact on whether you can. You sound self obsessed. Can you no longer feel joy for a friend and her new baby?

What an appalling thing to say bumchange

The OP has put on a brave face in order not to be self obsessed. When she has every right to be! I've luckily never had fertility problems, and I was never particularly maternal, but I think the OPs friend has be catastrophicly tactless and it is the friend who has been self obsessed. Who needs a birth announcement after 8 weeks!? Particularly a friend who had bad news regarding her third cycle of ivf

Bin it.

If I was close enough to the friend and ballsy enough, I might point out her tactlessness to her. Eg "I received your card today, and whilst I'm so, so unbelievably happy for you, I think I might have appreciated receiving the card on any other day than today, when I received the news...remember we discussed it this morning"

BobbyButtons · 29/01/2015 22:35

XPost Muse! You aren't self obsessed at all. Your friend is.

Ignore the heartless, unsympathetic PP saying otherwise!

tiggytape · 29/01/2015 22:37

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LondonRocks · 29/01/2015 22:37

Er, I think her timing stinks. She's an insensitive arse.

crazylady12 · 29/01/2015 22:37

Am confused why a birth announcement needs to be sent it's just stupid especially 8 weeks late hope your ok surround your self with people who care abd understand not silly thoughtless people Like that x

LondonRocks · 29/01/2015 22:39

And I think she's being massively self-obsessed.

I'm sorry you're having problems, OP Flowers

Kewcumber · 29/01/2015 22:40

OP if you can manage it I do think that a wry comment when you see her that it probably wasn't the best day to receive a birth announcement card is probably the best way to let her know you were hurt but are soldiering on.

If there is any day you can feel self obsessed (not that I think you are!) its the day your IVF fails - I think bumcheek is somewhat lacking in the empathy region.

If misery loves company... my mum was diagnosed with terminal cancer (I was with her) the day after my final IVF failed. No doubt Bumcheek would have told me to buck the hell up!

JohnCusacksWife · 29/01/2015 22:42

I have been where you are and I completely understand but I do think you are being a bit unreasonable. Would you really rather she sent cards to everyone else and left you out? Doesn't that draw attention to your troubles even more? Although it was sometimes v hard I always tried my best to take pleasure in the births of my friends' children and be happy for them. For your own sanity i think you have to try not to be devastated by your friends' happiness in their own families.

PassTheGinBottle · 29/01/2015 22:44

OP, YANBU. In any way, shape or form. I am so sorry to hear of your fertility problems and I hope your pain eases soon. Your friend needs to pull her head out of her arse.

bumchange - FFS. Shame on you.

AmysTiara · 29/01/2015 22:46

Yanbu, her timing is awful. So was the comment from bumchange.

The baby is 8 weeks old ffs.

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