To want the dr to do more

[bouncingbelle]

I've been lying on my living room floor for 20 hours since bending down to pick up my phone and doing something to my back. I literally can't move-can't roll over, sit up, anything. Called gp and they have given me painkillers but they aren't touching the pain and I still can't move.

AIBU to want someone to do SOMETHING? How long am I expected to lie like this??!! (Self-pity alert!)

I did have to pay. Now I'm feeling marginally better I am thinking about drafting a letter of complaint, particularly about the drs who left me lying on the floor and the gp who wouldn't come see me.

I was really shocked at the (lack of) treatment you got, to be honest. What if you hadn't had a partner to help you? It's quite scary to think of. Have you had good experiences with this GP Practice before?

Oh so glad you have an answer! All these people saying "you've put you back out, walk around etc" I hope you realise how daft it is to diagnose online!!! And your GP deserves the mother of all complaints. Maybe sad face local newspaper??

Good grief! How on earth did you do that?

I used to regularly dislocate my shoulders and was always being told that dislocations are one of the most painful things you can have.

for you.

Hmm, before everyone starts dr-bashing, that I would say is a spurious diagnosis.... And you've had pain relief (acupuncture), movement (passively, through manipulation), both of which was also provided/encouraged by GP/ooh etc, and a support (not necessarily a good idea as it can weaken the area). You were obviously quite a bit better to be able to go as would be expected with the injury you've had. I agree the GP probably should have visited you, but other than that, I think you had reasonable management.

Reasonable management? She was left on the floor for 38 hours in pain. Wtf is wrong with this country. It's like we should beg and be grateful for the tiniest smidgen of service from the NHS. This is why i go private every time. Depressing.

You poor thing it's horrible isn't it - I have had this in the past and the first time wasn't able to sit down for nearly 6 months and initially had to sleep semi-kneeling crouched over a pile of pillows!

Are you sure the osteopath said 'dislocation' of [sacro-iliac] joint - the inflammation, strain, arthritis, mis-alignment, local muscle spasm is usually described as 'dysfunction'? True dislocation requires extreme trauma eg in an RTA or fall from a height.

It can be tricky to diagnose and it would be useful for your GP to hear about ............... tho' not sure of your grounds for a formal complaint

Reasonable management? Leaving a pt on the floor for that length of time is not reasonable management!

Like I said above people are that used to the bare minimum from the NHS they think it's right. It's not. I and a colleague spoke about this the other day and she shared my disgust.

If the OP had been much older or much younger and came across as more vulnerable, people wouldn't be claiming that she's had the correct treatment. There would be uproar.

unidentified these sort of problems have never been well catered for outside of private provision -it's not something new. It was apparently a bureaucratic error that Osteopathy was not incorporated into the NHS back in 1948.

Wow Siobhan, that's interesting. I had awful SPD in pregnancy and paid for osteopathy which helped enormously. Best NHS could offer was group physio... It needed gentle manipulation not sitting in a group learning how to exit a car. Also they fobbed me off with a support belt which osteo said would do more long term harm (short term gain).

According to osteopath there's bits at the bottom of the spine and one of them has slipped out of place. I do have hypermobility so whether this was always more likely to happen, I don't know (I dislocate quite easily). Huge amounts of pain relief got me to a stage where I could get to an osteopath, but that wasn't provided by the g-meds who came out at 6am, gave me an injection and a diazepam and then left me on the floor for a further 10 hours.

I'm now in more pain today than I was yesterday,presumably because of the manipulation of my back yesterday but I literally feel I have nowhere else to go now. I can't afford another osteopathy appt and what else can the gp do apart from give me more of the same pain relief? There's a waiting list for physio and I can't get someone to submit the form till Monday anyway.

I'm still being sick with the pain/pain meds and worried I'm not keeping my heart meds down. I just want this to stop!!!

Siobhan again -maybe it was dysfunction. I have long since lost the ability to take in what anyone is saying to me! the pain is now down both legs to my knees and all I want to do is cry.

I'm so thankful I,ve got this thread to sound off too.

I once hurt my back just pushing a trolley. It was awful. I felt something move and within half an hour I was like you. I was incapacitated for a mnth. Just lay on the floor and managed to crawl to the ensuite loo. Dr would not refer me to the hospital even for an xray. Said there was no point as soft tissue damage would not show. By the end of the month I could walk but my hips were out of alignment because of the. back injury. Took 4 months for me to recover.

You have my every sympathy. I would call an ambulance and lay it on thick about your heart oroblems and vomitting and pains. You are really vulnerable andneed looking after.

How was your osteo able to diagnose that? did he give you any X rays?

I would get Dh to take you to A&E now and get an x-ray.

I would go down to a&e myself at this point

Plain x-rays won't show much of any value - my similiar problem was diagnosed by a combination of MRI scan [NHS] and the clinical picture/response to treatment [Osteopath] I also have hypermobility.

I would be very dubious about that diagnosis. No way anyone could tell without an MRI.

I've had serious back problems in the past and ongoing. Including breaking my spine once and since then have had numerous slipped discs. I once had an acute slipped disc and was similar to how OP was but not as bad as managed to sit in car to go to a&e. They admitted me for a week for pain management and an MRI.

I have spent a lot of money on chiropractors, osteopaths and physios. Seriously thousands of £. I don't trust osteopaths anymore or even chiropractors much. I've had experience of both of those having a bit of a prod and diagnosing me with something unlikely and the. Recommending loads of expensive appts for a bit of ultrasound and massage.

A good physio is worth their ep weight in gold and Ime is more likely to be able to help quite a bit quite quickly, recommend exercises for ongoing help. That with Pilates has really helped.

You def need to insist on an MRI scan bouncingbelle. I also think it's not a reliable diagnosis.

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OP if you can't keep your heart meds down you need either a change of painkiller or something to stop you vomiting - so maybe A&E rather than round and round the circle of 111/NHS/OOH again??

I'm trying to remember what helped me - it was quite a while ago and thankfully hasn't recurred The only thing which really completely relieved the pain was seeing the osteopath but like you that was limited by cost. Painkillers/diazepam/rest only took the edge off it Also a hop/lavender pillow draped over the joint that could be heated in the microwave was soothing I used the exercises in a book recommended by the osteo with useful stuff about how to arrange pillows to find a comfortable position to sleep.

I'll go and look for the title of the book.

It is your sacroiliac joint? My GP gave me some massive anti-inflammatory pills. Have you been given any anti-inflammatories?

Your lack of treatment and help is horrifying. All the tax we pay and this is what you get. I can see why people exaggerate their symptoms when calling 999 when they are not able to move. Terrible that ambulance think it's primary care job and primary care an ambulance. Yet another gap so many fall into.
Do you have any private medical you can use to get proper treatment?

Just go to a&e sweetie.

no one knows what the hell is's wrong with you and just keep prescribing pain meds which aren't good for you anyway and shouldn't be taken unless necessary which it might not be for so long if they examine you and fix the actual problem.

Please go. This is ridiculous now

Trouble is that due to heart meds/internal defibrillator I can't take anti- inflammatories or have an MRI.they were going to do an ultrasound un the osteopath but stopped when they heard I had an icd.

Best news is that my family are about to drive the 5 hour journey up to get me and take me home. Several of them are medical and will take me to A&E (where they work) and make sure something is done.

The pain of a 5 hour road journey is going to be worth it for the relief of being at home and having access to both a large NHs hospital and an excellent osteopath (my cousin also has back problems and swears by him).

I also know that if my aunt sees the state I am in, she may insist I go private if the NHs fob me off. It's not ideal, it's not fair, but right now - I'll take it with open arms.