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You are a bad mum

86 replies

LostOnLand · 13/01/2015 14:42

I was walking home from school pick up with my reception age child and younger child in a buggy. Because it was raining I'd put my youngest in an all in one rain suit thing and a took a hat and wellies for my eldest. The hat I use to help keep the hood on and to cover her fringe - she insists on having her hair up in a plait, I can't do french plaits and her hair is curly and rebellious like mine so would just unravel. This means the hood can't reach right to the front of her head but the bobble on the hat keeps it at least half on. She's the sort of child to strip off her layers in cold and rain and wonder round in a summer dress in winter. She is also happy to complain if she is unhappy, this is no shrinking violet! I also don't think getting wet is a terrible thing, particularly when we are heading home to a well heated house with lots of warm and clean clothes.

We also have a long walk home, I have a long term back problem and usually am in a lot of discomfort or pain. We have to walk passed lots of other kids from various schools. On our last leg of the journey I hear a screeching of "hat" "hat" "hat" behind me. I can see both kids have their hats and haven't dropped them (this is common) but no this woman is telling me off because my eldest's hood isn't completely on her head. The women then starts trying to force the hood back over my DD's head. I do not know this woman, she is either a childminder or grandparent and had a few children with her who go to a different school (we go to the MC CoE school while the area itself is considered fairly deprived). I tell her not to do that and leave my DD alone. She tells me 'she will get wet' and I say 'a bit a rain won't harm anyone'. She retorts that 'she will get a cold'. I tell her to learn some science, being out in the rain doesn't give people colds, it's bacteria and germs' (I did mean viruses sorry). She then tells me I am a bad mother, which is just a horrible thing to say over something so minor and in front of my children and her charges. I left it with calling her an interfering old lady but think I was very reserved considering.

I don't know if it's unreasonable to expect strangers to not man handle my children, we live in London and it's not something I expect or am comfortable with. As a family we don't much support and involvement of family or friends in bringing up our children. I think I'm doing a decent job considering both physical problems and severe depression. I'm 32 and a very capable adult, however I have been told I look much younger - I do wonder if this was the reason for her being patronising, interfering and insulting - I'm told I'd pass as ten years younger. I doubt this woman would've done this to my husband (because mothers are judged so much more than fathers) or someone her own age. I really struggle with feeling negatively judged and it's led to avoiding talking to people and having bad social anxiety. I also have no flipping clue what is reasonable and whether I deserved that. I know my kids didn't deserve to hear it.

OP posts:
Username12345 · 13/01/2015 14:49

I really struggle with feeling negatively judged and it's led to avoiding talking to people and having bad social anxiety.

You're not a bad mother and the woman was ridiculous but there are always going to be rude or cruel people in this world.
You should learn to deal with it better and not let them get to you.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 13/01/2015 14:49

You're not a bad mum, but I'm astounded at your restraint. I'm astounded at her sheer lack of self-presevation; there were parents at DD's old primary who would have smacked her one, and we were all fairly naice.

Jackiemagazine · 13/01/2015 14:53

In situations like this, it's worth remembering you don't need anyone else's approval. Take a deep, cleansing breath and exhale with a barely audible "fuuuuccckkk youuuuuuuuu".

LineRunner · 13/01/2015 14:54

Bless you, I know this will rattle you for a little while, but you did nothing wrong and showed admirable restraint.

The other woman was way, way over the line.

Theboodythatrocked · 13/01/2015 15:00

I am a childminder and if anyone man handled one of my mindees like that or abused me i would report to the police.

Theboodythatrocked · 13/01/2015 15:01

She sounds unhinged!

I dought she's a registered child minder op.

LostOnLand · 13/01/2015 15:02

Thanks for responding. I had a bit of a cry reading them and that has been my first cry about it at all. I told DH last night and he was shocked but it's hard to get perspective. I know I have issues with feeling the world is a hostile place and then it is confirmed with such incidents. I am in counselling to sort it out. I'm now off for school pick up and hoping we don't see her again. I was almost tempted to complain to the school. I don't think the school she picked up at is at all naice, so she should be careful!

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YokoUhOh · 13/01/2015 15:06

What is it with fear of wet stuff? Seriously, a few minutes in the rain = hypothermia according to some fuddy-duddies people. MIL once swept DS up in a towel because he got splashed in the garden. In July.

OP, you handled that well.

lornathewizzard · 13/01/2015 15:07

Some folk are just interfering loons like that woman. Other folk in the world are wonderful so try not to let it put you off Smile

imjustahead · 13/01/2015 15:10

what lorna said

also, don't doubt yourself x

LineRunner · 13/01/2015 15:13

Yes, don't doubt yourself. You are fine.

NoImSpartacus · 13/01/2015 15:51

Good restraint, OP, I would have wanted to smacked her one.

And YADNBU

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 13/01/2015 15:52

Sounds like she was bring domineering and interfering and then the argument got heated.

She shouldn't have done it but she didn't really assault your child.

Bringing her age into it wasn't great. Bit then she had upset you.

I would just ignore and move on.

formerbabe · 13/01/2015 15:52

I absolutely hate the idea that as soon as a child removes their coat, hat, gloves or scarf they are going to get a cold...I am always amazed how many people think its true and feel they can criticise others.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 13/01/2015 15:53

Don't doubt yourself. She just had some ignorant beliefs about cold and rain.

NancyRaygun · 13/01/2015 15:56

She sounds batty.

I know what you mean OP, I really struggle with stuff like that. I still pathetically think about the time two other mothers at a party thought that I had jumped the line for face painting, but the two children in front had changed their minds. They gave me such evil glares then had a loud/quiet conversation about entitled mothers. Such a small incident but I felt really judged and unnerved.

i felt unsure of myself for the first 4 years of parenting TBH and its only now I feel i have my mojo back.

Seriously: that woman is an idiot. try to forget it.

MinceSpy · 13/01/2015 16:01

You are NOT a bad mum but she is an interfering unpleasant woman.

zzzzz · 13/01/2015 16:02

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HRH008isback · 13/01/2015 16:03

I live in Germany and it's the same here, but more so... The number of times that adults have come up and told me (aged 43, and looking every day of it) off for being outside with wet hair is ridiculous.

Now i just laugh at them, and tell them, as you did, that they need to learn some facts about illnesses and that in 40 odd years rain/wet hair has never done me any harm.

Then i walk off muttering.

HRH008isback · 13/01/2015 16:05

Btw, i also think you were being v restrained, and that you handled it very well!

Jengnr · 13/01/2015 16:05

She's a dick. I cannot believe you were so restrained.

Do you know which children she was with? Maybe a word with the school about the behaviour of adults picking the kids up would be worth it.

I used to get similar stuff when my son used to take his socks off in the buggy. 'Oh he'll get cold'

'Look love I've put them back on 75 times today already. He has a blanket and he keeps sticking his feet out. If he was cold he would cry and look at him' Son has face splitting grin on his mush

Mrsfrumble · 13/01/2015 16:07

You sound like an excellent mother! Why? Because you set a great example for your children by not losing your temper and responding to the interfering and unpleasant women in a calm and reasonable manner. Well done!

Hurr1cane · 13/01/2015 16:13

I'll tell you a little story.

My DS has severe autism and disabilities and health problems, water calms him.

Next to my house is some woods, in the woods is a little, extremely shallow stream.

My DS is a very tall 8 year old, his disabilities are invisible, so, to the untrained eye, he looks like a big, hard, NT 10 year old.

Anyway, picture the scene, the Middle of summer, sun shining but not overly hot, DS in a very light rain suit and wellies, splashing in the very shallow stream, with me stood next to him.

Lady arrives.
Her: "is that your child?" ShockShock
Me: "yes"
Her: "the water could go over his head!!!"
Me: "it's not even over the feet of his wellies" Confused
Her: "and he's wet and muddy!" ShockShockShock
Me:"he's waterproof, and we own a shower"
Her: "well, make sure you give him one!"

Some people just like children locked up in little glass viewing cages perfectly neat and tidy and are shocked when they see something different. I like my children muddy and laughing.

Iveabsolutelynofekkingideadoi · 13/01/2015 16:26

Are you me OP? I live in London too and I can tell you I get no end of nonsense from people who think they know better.

I wouldn't give the silly woman another thought, easier said than done when you're feeling a bit fragile and the worlds against you.

It's London living with kids and you are not alone. It can be rough out here.

It's almost wine time :)

DixieNormas · 13/01/2015 16:29

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