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AIBU?

To not let DD demand money with menaces?

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 14:02

DD is 9 and is pretty obsessed with loom bands!

DP is 50 and pretty obsessed with rugby!

So far, so driving me crazy good!

One day DD asked if she could take her loom bands to the rugby club, so she had something to do. The kids have all been going to the club since they were tiny, so are pretty much free range!

It took quite some time for me to realise she had been selling her loom bands to the big hairy arsed rugby players. All fine, all fairly drunk good natured!

The next time we were at the club she did it. Again, fine! She told me after she waited till the men had had a drunk and were 'being silly', before selling them! My thoughts were that Alan Sugar would be proud!

We have come again and told her she can bring her loom bands and do them but not harrass people! Not really sure she was actually harassing people but just in case!

She had brought them, showed off over the £2 she made selling a couple! Then been rude to the steward/barman, saying 'See,I told you I could sell them' in a mocking tone of voice! She has been put in time out, loom bands surgically removed and locked in the car! She has also been made to apologise!

She thinks I am being unreasonable! What do you think?

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TooHasty · 10/01/2015 19:32

soory meant ' don't push your luck'

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 19:33

I know TooHasty, that's why I told her to stop! That seems to have been missed by a lot of people! Did you miss it too?

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Athyrium · 10/01/2015 19:37

Don't stress at some of these odd replies op...I think you are right to perhaps knock the loom band selling on the head, your DD sounds like my DS who gets rather over excited at any chance of making money. Entrepreneurial maybe, but it makes me cringe sometimes!! Also, whats all this about a rugby club being a bad place for kids?? Home on a Saturday evening with yummy mummies and daddies who have all had a bottle of wine each is fine no doubt.

And why did no one else wet themselves laughing at this comment noticed up thread?:

"The last time I had a child try and sell me some jewellery it was a young Bedouin child in the Desert. I bought a few things as it probably helped her family eat. It was also lovely hand made bracelets etc rather than shit loom bands."

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 19:44

Sorry, missed your post Bulbasaur but you seem to have misunderstood me. She is disciplined, she is controlled. The rugby club, probably less so, as people know her and us and they are well able to tell her and she knows it. That said, she has not been allowed to harrass people, the loom bands were taken off her, she did get time out, she did have to say sorry and in an appropriate manner (her first attempt was stroppy).

I do let some things go that I would not have with the older girls. I cannot argue 24/7. If she does not want to wear a coat, she is the one who will end up cold, so I give in.

She absolutely does have firm boundaries! Is the fact that they are in place a certain way to stop misbehaviour or a pushing of the boundaries? That is an awful lot of MN threads deleted for making stuff up then! Even the older girls pushed the boundaries from time to time. All kids do as a way to test they are still there. Normal stuff of parenting.

and as a side.. There's plenty of people that don't believe ADHD exists, and plenty of articles misquoting the guy that discovered it as saying it's made up. Even if you get a diagnosis, be prepared for lots of eye rolling.

I can eye roll with the best of them but half an hour in her company is generally enough!

My friend has a son with ADHD, she had my DD for a day, so I could sleep after a night shift. I have done plenty of favours for her of the same kind. She brought her back 2 hours early, as she couldn't cope with her. Not due to naughtiness, as much as 'full on ness'!

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DixieNormas · 10/01/2015 19:46

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MrsTawdry · 10/01/2015 19:48

YABU. you might as well give her a basket of violets, a bonnet and send her to Covent Garden to flog those.

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 19:49

Athyrium, I think I love you!

Not just for your whole lovely reply but for describing me as a yummy mummy, for the first and most inappropriate time ever! It was muddy, it was wet and windy, I was cold and shivery and had no make up on. I am not even sure I brushed my hair this morning before scraping it up into a pony tail!

Clearly I am not out to impress when I go there. Grin

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DixieNormas · 10/01/2015 19:50

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 19:51

MrsT, good idea, but a bit far away, the walk would wear her legs to stumps! Hmm, disability people can see................... that's a good selling point.........................Maybe you are right!

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MassaAttack · 10/01/2015 20:04

Is there a way she could work with the barman? I suppose glass collecting isn't ideal for a 9 year old.... I dunno, I like the sound of your daughter op. There must be a way to channel all this spirit in a less irritating way.

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 20:09

I like the sound of your daughter op. She is pretty awesome. I just need to get her to adulthood without killing her! Grin

She will be an amazing adult, who has a lot to give to the world! not just chuffing loom bands

She is so kind and caring, she has so much energy. She wants to be a paramedic. I think she could do it!

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MissHJ · 10/01/2015 20:10

Is there another hobby she can get into. My brother was pretty much like your dd. He was quite possibly the most full on kid I have ever met. No one would watch him and he was at times a nightmare. So his school suggested getting him into calmer hobbies so he got into chess, science and magic. Really helped him, just make sure you DD can't sell it. She does remind me of my brother though. He is now 15 and while a lot better, he shows magic tricks in London for tips. He makes loads because in his words he goes for the obvious tourists Grin

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 20:16

She does a lot of different things, martial arts, craft stuff, etc. She bakes and 'helps' me a lot in the kitchen.
Good sound advice there though MissHJ! Thank you, need to put my thinking cap on.

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 20:27

Is there a way she could work with the barman? I suppose glass collecting isn't ideal for a 9 year old

So not answering in a logical way! No, she could not. People are only given actual proper glasses if they are known to the barman and promise on their life they will return said glass to the bar themselves.

Other people are given plastic glasses, they have to put them in the bin!


I am a good girl, I always get a glass! Grin

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MassaAttack · 10/01/2015 20:38
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MrsTawdry · 10/01/2015 20:40

Open an Ebay shop on her behalf OP....let her sell her old toys on it and things. You help her manage it.

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MassaAttack · 10/01/2015 20:49

That's an excellent idea MrsT.

Also if she's crafty (as is good at making stuff - I'm sure she's the other meaning of the word at times too Wink ) could she make and sell greetings cards or the like? Perhaps to rugby club members?

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 20:51

MrsT lovely idea, but I really do not have the time! I am a student nurse and busy busy busy!

I could advertise stuff easily but never send it. DP is equally busy!

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 20:52

Massa, you totally have the measure of her! I may well steer her in that direction!

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Waitingonasunnyday · 10/01/2015 21:00

OP I think you've had a hard time here! Your DD sounds great and you're right to nip this in the bud -
Once or twice is fine but the novelty wears off.

eBay shop is a great idea though if her big sisters could help out?

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IAmAllImportant · 10/01/2015 21:07

They do not have the time either. No 1 is not her big sis, she is big sis of No2. No1 has 2 of her own anyway.

No2 is 19, recently wed and working full time and full on. Lives a few miles away.

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DeWee · 10/01/2015 23:02

I had a similar situation.

I was playing tennis at a club session and dd2 and ds (10yo and 6yo at the time) took their loom bands down. Many of the people playing were slightly older and hadn't come across loom bands before and were fascinated.
When I came off court, dd2 told me that they were planning on selling them in aid of "her" charity. I told her that she could give them away but if she wanted to sell them then she had to ask permission of the owner-just as a shop does or a street hawker. I said if they made enough then we could hire a stall at a Christmas fair (there's one place round her you can hire them for 5)

They had just as much fun going round and offering them and asking what colours they wanted.

The thing is that most of the people there are lovely and they would have seen two sweet little children and paid out, probably more than sensible just because they were asking. Dd2 could also sell a fire extinguisher to the devil, so a bit of an unfair sales pitch there. Grin

I know I've been in the situation where a child has asked me to buy something they've made which I don't want, and I've felt under a lot of pressure to buy because you don't want to disappoint them. It's worse if you know the parents in some ways because you tend to assume that the parent knows and is happy with it and, in some cases will get afronted if you don't buy.

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GlitterBelle · 10/01/2015 23:35

Athyrium wasn't calling you a yummy mummy, OP - she was saying others judge you, yet wouldn't bat an eye-lid at a yummy mummy looking after their child at home while getting drunk (i.e. supporting you).

Honestly, I don't get threads like this. You begin by saying what happened and the actions you took as a result - you told her to stop. You then get comment after comment saying - you are completely unreasonable, you should have made her stop, she's annoying everyone, etc.

You're like uh, I did tell her to stop, as was said initially, just wanted to check it was the right thing. As a result get more comments saying you can't control her and are a bad parent.

Argh! Anyway, sounds like you did exactly the right things and I hope you find a way to redirect her energies. Also hope you get a diagnosis soon - it can be such as lomg and frustrating process for any condition.

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ArsenicFaceCream · 10/01/2015 23:40

She's on the barmans turf.

He's selling his loom bands there and she's taking over.

Derek Grin

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Kewcumber · 10/01/2015 23:54

I'm a rugby club'er too and still snorting at the idea of a rugby club in daytime being unsuitable for children!

Most rugby clubs are like a time warp into my childhood in the 70's - lemonade and gangs of kids trying to climb up the middle of a 20 ft hedge to see who can win and disappearing together to be spies.

We are lucky enough to have a professional team attached to our club and a nicer bunch of toothsome young men I've yet to meet. Even with the odd pint in them. They are so good with the kids it has to be seen to be believed - I have a theory its because they are almost children themselves.

I would live there if I could.

Better not let DS get wind of the selling loombands idea - it's just the kind of thing he'd try.

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