about people who pronounce cayenne "kye-ann"

[GrandTheftQuarto]

They should all be shot.

See also: chewmeric, cardamon, and cummin.

Yes I know this is unreasonable. Especially for cummin.

Spoony, those all sound delicious

pass me a pompadon anyone?

As an American rhotic speaker, I was really confused when I first joined MN and encountered the "r" being used to lengthen (or broaden, as we say in the US) the "a." I think it was one of those "lar-tay" discussions about American pronunciation, and I'm thinking, no we don't stick an "r" in the word, what are these people talking about. And then it clicked. I would add an "h" to broaden the "a" sound so "lah-tay." Maybe we need our own MN phonetic rendering guide.

My sister, who lived in China for five years, will use Chinese pronunciation in restaurants, and it can be a bit funny, especially when the waiter is fourth generation Chinese-American who does not speak Chinese.

Speaking of China, why do so many people Frenchify the pronunciation of the "j" in Beijing?

I have always said Marshmellow instead of Marshmallow. Apparently this is very wrong (but in my head I still think it sounds better).

Marshmellow makes me want to kill.

DH says nugget for nougat. Apparently where he grew up it was a big treat to go to the nugget van and buy a bag. I just think of and grin to myself.

Marshmellow is a hanging offence.

You can come and kill dh for me, Taffeta - he says choreetso AND marshmellow. And misCHEEvious. And he persists in saying garahzh instead of garridge, despite me repeatedly pointing out any number of examples to prove my point (damage, umbrage, wastage, shrinkage, cleavage, savage, to name but a few). Actually lots of people say garahzh. Which is more correct?

ung-yon for Onion

Makes me stabby. Jamie oliver ways it that way

"look at me I look like a SKELENTON "said by friend after an op.

pah .

Garridge is correct. The other way is Hyacinth Bouquet faux French

The American pronunciation is ga-RAHZH. Nothing to do with Hyacinth.

Oh I don't mean American, I mean British. British people with British accents saying garaaaaage. In a Hyacinth stylee.

Delia smith says garaahzh, which may be a case in point .

I say ga-rarrge (soft g), and I'm certainly no Hyacinth. I am posh though.

How would you pronounce triage then? Surely not tree-idge?

Tree-idge?

... No?!

how about secetary instead of secretary - what's happend to the R?

My DP randomly says magno instead of mango I've tried to change him it but he is too stuck in his ways

GA-rarzh. Again, that's my mum's French upbringing (note: NOT ga-RARZH).

Mind you, I do get annoyed about homage and visage, which are HOMidge and VIZidge. Hom-ARZH makes me stabby.

Illogical I know.

I always use HowJSay as arbiter when I'm conflicted on a pronunciation. I see upthread someone linked to a YouTube video which suggested that cayenne was pronounced "K-eye enn", rather than "K-ay enn", but HowJSay suggests that both are applicable :

www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=cayenne&submit=Submit

The one thing that is agreed upon by both websites is that the last part is ENN (as in pen) and not ANN (as in pan).

With regards to the American pronunciation of this spice, I'm no expert. I do know that some American pronunciation just sounds wrong to my ear - for example, there was a bird in Buffy the Vampire Slayer called Tara, and every actor except for Giles (the Brit) pronounced it TERA. Also, I've heard loads of Americans pronounce Craig as Kreg (common with "Kregslist"). And let's not forget Eye-Rak. However, I'm quite sure that many Americans find my Glaswegian accent to be a little challenging, so I'm reeling in my snark!

And, in conclusion, I would challenge anyone to find a Scottish person who, as a child, went to the ice-cream van for a "double NOOGARR".

Over and out.

Jux it's perfectly logical because I feel exactly the same about homage and visage.

Ah Biscetti, we is both posh innit?

Innit.

In the US, o-mahzh has become popular for homage among the most prententious.

I pronounce Tara with the "a" sound like in apple, but it is pronounced Tera in some American accents.

Craig is indeed Kreg in nearly all American accents.

Most Americans do not say Eye-rak.