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NHS in a state

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Feellikescrooge · 23/12/2014 17:06

My DF is in his mid 80's and my DM died in April and my DB died suddenly ( road traffic accident) in October. Two weeks ago he went to his GP feeling very unwell. She called an ambulance and sent him to hospital they sent him home late that night, the first I knew was a call from my DF in a taxi because he didn't have enough cash, I had only left him an hour before.

Next morning he attends his regular dialysis appointment and the staff there are so concerned they call for medical backup and he is transferred to A and E at the end of the session. Again he is sent home in the middle of the night without my sister or I being contacted.

The following day I call in at about 10 am and find him on the floor unable to get up, a man who a week before was walking 4 miles plus a day with his dog. Again he was admitted and this time he was kept in. Last Thursday he had a heart attack and was transferred to the CCU. Yesterday he was sent home, when I got there I said to the nurse he did not seem well enough and she shrugged and said that beds were being cleared for Christmas.

I insisted Dad stayed with me and heard him calling at 3am terribly poorly. He was blue lighted to hospital and is now in Intensive Care having been given the Last Rites. I know they are under pressure, my DH was a GP, but surely there is something dreadfully wrong if people as sick as my Dad are being continually sent home.

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aprilanne · 24/12/2014 19:40

i am a nurse in scotland and unfortunately what you describe is not unusual .patients discharged at terrible hours of night .but taxi usually paid for and they do try to make sure .they are not alone at home .but yes its in crisis .especially elderly care and mental health .i am sorry about your dad .my thoughts are with you

aprilanne · 24/12/2014 19:44

this may be a sore point but the snp free prescriptions for all has had a terrible impact on the money available to front line services .if you are working you should pay for your medicine .we cannot sustain this free for all culture .even they know that because the medicines are the cheapest brands .better to pay a yearly or per item prescription .

elephantspoo · 24/12/2014 20:00

aprilanne - Nor can you sustain a free for those on benefits, because all you do is add one more reason for them not to ever work. There is such a high financial incentive to never work, that the country cannot afford to support them. The welfare system is run entirely on debt, and a debt that continues to grow. Mathematically, that cannot end well. You cannot continue to add negative numbers to negative numbers and ever come up with a positive result. What is coming is serious poverty and depravation of all those who do,not understand where we are headed, or choose to not care.

Throwing money into welfare is not the answer. You can either cut services now, and deal with the political turmoil and civil unrest that will ensue, or you can kick the can down the road, continue to pile on the debt, and create even greater deprivation and death in the future.

The government has chosen the latter. We will not see improvements to welfare in our lifetime, and we will likely see war as a means of having something to blame for what is coming.

Thankfully most people will blame war, and not understand, which is testement to how well education of the masses and control of the media is working. So long as you can control what most people think, they are helpless to stop you.

BallsforEarings · 26/12/2014 11:42

I will not go into details but almost the same thing happened within my family before xmas and it has caused the most awful consequences to all of our well-being!

Suffice to say someone very close could have died and were continually sent home from A&E, this could happen again as they have a long-term illness, we are afraid and insecure that there will be nobody to help in a crisis, because that was our experience during a nightmare that lasted four days! As a direct result I personally can't sleep and my hopes for the future care of this person are on the floor, I am scared for us every day! I never knew nobody would help us in these circumstances! I though we were a developed country!

So sorry OP it is absolutely grim!

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