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Surely we shouldn't be expected to pay everyone's bill at Xmas meal?

649 replies

MeetMyCat · 22/12/2014 17:32

On Boxing Day, DH and I are going out for a meal with DSS, my Dad, Dad's partner, and my brother. So six of us in total. When this was arranged earlier in the year, I (obviously) invited everyone, checked they were all happy with the venue, timings etc etc. I didn't mention who would pick up the tab, it never entered my head to be honest, and I certainly didn't give anyone the impression it was "our treat."

The background to this, is that no one on the guest list (with the exception of DSS (student) and obviously we'll pay for him) is particularly hard up, but there is history of reluctance to share the bill at social events. My brother is 41, single with no kids, works as an architect, but will never buy anyone a drink. My dad is retired, but very comfortable, enjoys lots of holidays, but tends to assume DH will pay for everything if there's a family gathering. Dad's partner (they don't live together, but have been together for over 10 years) was recently made redundant, so I'm not sure about her current financial situation. But however tight they are, they're my family, so I like to see them at Christmas.

Last night, DH commented "what on earth do we do if no one offers to contribute towards the bill on Boxing Day - do I say anything?" Now whilst we can afford to pay for ourselves and DSS, the thought of picking up the whole tab is rather scary - set menu at £65 per head, plus drinks, for six people. Ok, so we'd still be able to eat (but it would be beans on toast!) and pay the bills in January, but it's a lot of money, not to mention the principle.

As I said earlier, we asked everyone if they wanted to go out for a meal, they all said yes, and we never suggested we'd pay for everyone. But as we made the arrangements, does etiquette dictate we should pay? And as dad's partner has now lost her job, is her share of the bill our responsibility as 'organisers'?

Looking back, I can't remember a single time when anyone wanted to split a bill/buy a drink etc for DH and I, and I wish I'd remembered this when I made the Boxing Day booking.

So do I say something upfront, or do I assume (and hope and pray) that normal social etiquette will prevail, and wait for everyone to contribute when the bill arrives? Surely we shouldn't be expected to foot the whole bill?

OP posts:
IsChippyMintonExDirectory · 23/12/2014 16:48

Oh Lordy what a polava!
I know how you feel though OP. For DHs 30th I organised a surprise meal for about a dozen family and friends in a posh restaurant and had a panic the day before that people would expect it to me my treat! Ended up in me hiding in the downstairs cupboard making 12 phone calls whispering "Erm...you do know I'm not paying?". Every single response was "of course you're not paying you loon and WTF are you whispering for?"
Answer: it was a surprise do and cupboard was the only sound proof place in the house. Didn't occur to me to leave the bloody house to call them Blush

Spadequeen · 23/12/2014 18:52

May I suggest that you leave your cards at home and you take enough cash to cover your meals and extra for drinks and taxi, that way if they've conveniently left theirs behind, you still can't pay and it's down to them to sort out.

PlantsAndFlowers · 23/12/2014 18:56

oooooh, that's a good idea Grin.

FishWithABicycle · 23/12/2014 19:08

Spadequeen's suggestion wins!

londonrach · 23/12/2014 19:11

For those of us without wifi at pil this xmas can someone bump this about a day or two later as i not good on the mn searches!

Bogeyface · 23/12/2014 19:12

london Just under the last post of a thread is an option to watch this thread, it will then appear in "threads I am watching".

waithorse · 23/12/2014 19:48

Glad your brother is being sensible. Looking forward to the next update.

writtenguarantee · 23/12/2014 21:40

by what you have said, I wouldn't expect you to pay, especially if you asked the others to ok the menu. And no, I wouldn't expect someone to pay unless they said so explicitly ('my treat', 'i'd like to take you out' etc)

HappenstanceMarmite · 23/12/2014 23:27

Why are people still pitching in with suggestions for OP's text/email when she has reported, several pages ago, that such an email has already been sent?!

Keep up people Hmm

JapaneseMargaret · 23/12/2014 23:56

Because they haven't RTFT.

And they think it's more important that people read what they say, than they read what people say. Wink

HappenstanceMarmite · 23/12/2014 23:59

Haha well put JapaneseMargaret

Chottie · 24/12/2014 05:53

Well done OP - I hope you hear back from your father soon. I'll be thinking of you on Boxing Day and I hope it all works out.

Zucker · 24/12/2014 12:23

Because they haven't RTFT.

And they think it's more important that people read what they say, than they read what people say.

LIKE Xmas Grin

Good luck OP, if there's any wallet shyness on Friday, stare them down and glue your DH to the chair if you need to. The lack of shame in bill dodgers is amazing. No doubt they will then claim they "forgot" the email you sent!

auntpetunia · 24/12/2014 12:38

I totally agree with only taking enough to pay your meal and drinks an taxi fare home that way you put down your £135 for meals and check how much your drinks came to and then pass the bill to BIL/dad. We've been out with my sil before an done that as she'd happily sit and wait for us to pay saying she's left her purse at home.

Newlywed2013 · 24/12/2014 13:08

Just send a text suggesting everyone brings cash as it will be much easier than splitting the Bill by card etc!

Fairyfellowsmasterstroke · 24/12/2014 13:43

newlywed2013 - I refer you to Japenesemargaret's thread at 23.56

FlowerFairy2014 · 24/12/2014 14:11

It's never easy. I pay for the children and there are a lot of them (as I earn more). My late father used to pay for 15 of us for a Christmas meal which was good of him. I paid one year for everyone It does not bother me too much as I know I have a large family and it is my responsibility although I don't have any savings at present so not sure technically I am the richest person present. The main thing is for everyone to know where they stand.

My youngest (teenager) went to a meal without the family for the first time I think recently and I did tell him before people split costs in different ways and how some people who haven't much money like to pay for their own cost and keep the order cheap and some groups split equally and that all this can be a huge source of resentment for some so for him to do whatever everyone else was doing but be sensitive to those who might not have much money. It can be a minefield. You get the utter meanies with loads of money. You get the genuinely badly off who should not be burdened by expensive wine tastes of others etc.

Gruntfuttock · 24/12/2014 14:12

QTPie "You should really check "whether cost is ok at time of booking"."

For the umpteenth time, the cost was on the original invite.

OhWotIsItThisTime · 26/12/2014 08:19

Any news? Good luck today.

Chottie · 26/12/2014 08:40

OP - stay strong and do not waive today Xmas Smile

ihatethecold · 26/12/2014 08:41

I'm dying to read how this pans out!

Good luck op. Hope you enjoy your meal.

InMySpareTime · 26/12/2014 13:21

Shamelessly place-marking...

flamingtoaster · 26/12/2014 13:44

Hope you enjoy your meal and it all goes smoothly when it is time to pay!

MokunMokun · 26/12/2014 13:58

Thought there might be an update!

Hope they put their hands in their pockets and paid for you for a change too.

Tinkerball · 26/12/2014 14:05

Eastenders Christmas special

Xmas Grin