To be getting fed up of these type of jumping on the band wagon breastfeeding threads

[sharonthewaspandthewineywall]

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FTR I'm very pro breastfeeding and think where children are permitted mothers should be able to feed their babies in whichever way they choose. But to me this is a completely different situation and this running to the papers screaming about the inequity of it all is pointless and doesnt actually help in cases where people do breach the equality act.
So AIBU?

Exactly what rootandbranch said. Now that bottle feeding is more the norm it means that BF are more readily 'punished' for doing something natural. After all, why can't we just give a bottle if we want to go out in public?

I think there's a difference between "wanting to draw attention to their own breastfeeding" (I don't know anyone who does that, they just get on with feeding their baby) and "wanting to draw attention to discrimination against breastfeeding/things that discourage breastfeeding". I'm pretty sure that, eg, that woman in Claridges was BF in a reasonably unobtrusive fashion like most people (much as I would be amused by someone ostentatiously breastfeeding with a megaphone and a giant neon sign).

No, I am suggesting that it is a normal 'physiological action' as was said.

Not everyone wants to see it

"People, like it or not, are getting fed up with the entitlement that some women are showing."

What - entitlement to feed their babies how they choose?

" They want the whole world centred around them and their child", a

No - they're not asking other people to do anything inconvenient. This mother wasn't demanding an onyx and gold changing table for her baby and a team of Norland Nannies with silk gloves to caress it gently to sleep while she performed.

"and it's not and neither should it be."

I can think of worse things that society could do than put the welfare of tiny babies at the centre of their thinking.

"No, I am suggesting that it is a normal 'physiological action' as was said.

Not everyone wants to see it"

Come off it, you suggested masturbation as a comparison because you fundamentally see breastfeeding as something sexual and a bit indecent.

That's why you keep harping on about how important it is that nobody knows you're doing it.

I bet you pretend you don't masturbate either.

But aometimes inevitable that people will see "it". And should never be a problem if that happens. Not in a militant "make a big thing of it" way but in a "this is natural, no big deal" way. And fgs, can't equate to masturbation!

"Now that bottle feeding is more the norm it means that BF are more readily 'punished' for doing something natural. After all, why can't we just give a bottle if we want to go out in public? hmm"

I think that hits the nail on the head. It also contributes to the idea that BF is a really restrictive option that's only for particularly self-sacrificing/weirdo mothers, and/or if you don't want to let it limit your life then you're being even more of a weirdo/"entitled"/a "boob nazi".

What - entitlement to feed their babies how they choose?

No, an entitlement that trumps absolutely everything and everyone else no matter where, what, or how. There ARE other people in the world, you know.

Simply an 11 week old's right to be fed in the only way it knows. That trumps a lot for me but afaik is not stepping on the rights of others.

Come off it, you suggested masturbation as a comparison because you fundamentally see breastfeeding as something sexual and a bit indecent.

Oh, that's ^^ just given me the best laugh of the year. It really has.

Oh, hee hee hee hee hee.

What????? No masturbating in cafés???? Are you quite repressed in general porto. Go oooooon, walk on the wild side porto.

"No, an entitlement that trumps absolutely everything and everyone else no matter where, what, or how. There ARE other people in the world, you know.~"

Yes - a baby being fed should trump the rights of adults simply not to see or be around a baby being fed.

Absolutely.

On the other hand if a mother is performing life-saving surgery, I'd have problem with her stopping half-way through to breastfeed, while the patient bled out on the table.

Ditto breastfeeding one handed while driving a full coach down the motorway at 70 miles an hour.

Or creating a nuclear fusion.

They can feed their babies how they choose Rooty' they just can't feed them in a venue or building where under 12s aren't allowed.

It's like Porto said @ 12:26. It's exactly that, and you only have to read thread, after thread on here. People won't move their buggies for wheelchairs, they think it is essential to have a P&C space, they compare having a baby with having a disablity. It's bloody ridiculous.

"just given me the best laugh of the year. It really has."

Your last post confirms it for me. You must be leading a pretty miserable life if this was your best laugh all year. Poor poor you.

" There ARE other people in the world, you know."

Well yes, I'm just not entirely clear about how a mother breastfeeding a baby impinges on them, other than "ew, yucky, I don't want to see it"? Even in the situation described with the mother playing the gig (which as I said above is not really/entirely about BF), how exactly is the presence of a baby in the dressing room going to affect anyone else? Other than the perceived "slippery slope" of IF ONE BABY IS ALLOWED IN THE DRESSING ROOM THEY'LL BE BRINGING ENTIRE COACH PARTIES OF TODDLERS INTO STRIP CLUBS NEXT? Or I CANNOT ENJOY THIS CHILD-FREE GIG KNOWING THAT THERE IS AN ACTUAL BABY IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ROOM WITHIN THIS BUILDING THAT MIGHT GET OUT AND ATTACK ME/WANT A WHISKEY?

Laugh away Portofino.

You chose to create an analogy between masturbating and breastfeeding.

Just after you told a little story about a man talking to you and not noticing that you were breastfeeding.

"Ditto breastfeeding one handed while driving a full coach down the motorway at 70 miles an hour."

Damn it, there go my plans for the weekend.

This has nothing to do with breastfeeding being thought of as something that should be hidden away.

This is to do with someone arriving at a venue to do paid employment and placing demands on the employer that had not been previously agreed, and then being affronted when told that the employer could not / would not meet those demands.

What????? No masturbating in cafés???? Are you quite repressed in general porto. Go oooooon, walk on the wild side porto.

Often do, often do Beatrice. (Especially on MN )

Just after you told a little story about a man talking to you and not noticing that you were breastfeeding.

Ummmm, that wasn't ME Root. That was someone else!

"It's exactly that, and you only have to read thread, after thread on here. People won't move their buggies for wheelchairs, they think it is essential to have a P&C space, they compare having a baby with having a disablity. It's bloody ridiculous."

Stupid comparison.

Breastfeeding a baby harms no one.

Refusing to move your buggy for a wheelchair has nothing to do with the well-being and needs of a baby, and clearly inconveniences another vulnerable person.

Again - so many shit analogies being used. Analogies that basically reveal that there are many people who see breastfeeding a baby as a fundamentally indecent, selfish and hostile act.

Nasty.

Interestingly OP has not been back. The shit has been stirred. Thank you very much. . These threads are always the same. [bored emoticon].

Sorry Beatrice I've been at work.
So you don't agree with me ergo I'm shit stirring?

Portofino - your analogy shows you think breastfeeding is fundamentally an indecent act which should be done in private.

That's where you are in relation to this issue. You think visible, normal, unselfconscious breastfeeding, the sort of breastfeeding that women have engaged in since the dawn of time, is somehow 'rude' and unseemly.

I agree with rootandbranch