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To be getting fed up of these type of jumping on the band wagon breastfeeding threads

402 replies

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 16/12/2014 07:21

here

FTR I'm very pro breastfeeding and think where children are permitted mothers should be able to feed their babies in whichever way they choose. But to me this is a completely different situation and this running to the papers screaming about the inequity of it all is pointless and doesnt actually help in cases where people do breach the equality act.
So AIBU?

OP posts:
leedy · 16/12/2014 11:42

It's not that insane a notion, is it? I've been to at least one gig where one of the performers popped off to feed a small baby in their dressing room at the interval. I know quite a few people who've toured with their kids because otherwise they would either a)have to leave their very small children for long periods of time (often their partner/family toured with them) or b)not work (being a musician is a fairly precarious state of employment).

leedy · 16/12/2014 11:46

Also from the article it didn't seem like she wanted to bring the baby into the venue, it was into the dressing room of what was probably a fairly "naice" establishment. I'm an occasional musician myself, it's not like the average venue dressing room is some kind of hideous flaming child hazard full of snakes/sparking electricals/depravity. At worst it might be a bit grubby or have an inadequately lit mirror.

PortofinoVino · 16/12/2014 11:48

I've been to at least one gig where one of the performers popped off to feed a small baby in their dressing room at the interval.

Well, they clearly didn't have age restrictions, did they?

Gileswithachainsaw · 16/12/2014 11:50

Yes but again, you may well have to go the restricted area to access the dressing room areas

leedy · 16/12/2014 11:50

In one case venue itself definitely has age restrictions (licensed premises in the evening, have played it myself), but they were obviously willing to be flexible about the dressing room. I'd have been kind of baffled if they weren't.

PortofinoVino · 16/12/2014 11:51

The way I see it is: other people are allowed to have 'rules' and 'rights' as well as BF mothers. Sometimes the two will clash. It happens with a lot of things in life. Get over it.

Beatricepottershouse · 16/12/2014 11:56

Yabu. Each case is individual no one is jumping on any wagon.

But threads like yours put bf in a bad light as in "look at these entitled bf mothers".

Not impressed.

PortofinoVino · 16/12/2014 12:00

But threads like yours put bf in a bad light as in "look at these entitled bf mothers"

It is NOT the threads that put bf in a bad light, it IS the attitude of the entitled bf mothers most of the time.

Gileswithachainsaw · 16/12/2014 12:04

everyone thinks their case and situation is different and special.

how are staff meant to keep up with a list never ending additions to the "allow kids I'm if..." list.

what if staff don't have a huge grasp of English (enough to do a few orders but not enough to read lists of exclusions from the rules)

what about when opinions differ and the deputy refuses someone the manager allowed the night before.

This kind of Contradiction and hassle cases staff no end of trouble

Beatricepottershouse · 16/12/2014 12:05

Also there are myriads of social barriers to bf. I salute anyone who makes the effort to challenge a situation where bf is made unduly difficult or impossible or even embarrassing.

As other MN posters have said recently bf mothers save everyone else £££ in NHS costs so maybe we should be a little more accepting of mothers trying to fit in bf with everyday life. If bf is confined to the home due to a lack of social acceptance of Bain public fewer women will bf as their ability to move around reasonably freely with a baby in arms / toddler would be restricted.

Beatricepottershouse · 16/12/2014 12:07

"It is NOT the threads that put bf in a bad light, it IS the attitude of the entitled bf mothers most of the time."
I disagree strongly. Smile

Gileswithachainsaw · 16/12/2014 12:08

Oh fgs these no need to stay at home talk about dramatic.

you can bf and take kids into many buildings and places. We are talking about a small number of age restricted venues which are usually casinos and betting shops and night clubs etc. places you'd have to be crazy to want to take ur baby even if you could

TheFairyCaravan · 16/12/2014 12:08

It's the women who keep running to the papers who are putting BF Mothers in a bad light.

When I BF 20 and 18 years ago, women just got on with it. No-one went to the papers. I never got a comment, a snarky remark, I was never asked to move, no-one gave two shits that I was doing it.

Beatricepottershouse · 16/12/2014 12:09

Lol at the term "entitled bf mother" made me chuckle Wink.

Mothers are indeed entitled to bf without being discriminated against. Thank goodness.

PortofinoVino · 16/12/2014 12:10

I disagree strongly said Beatrice

As is your right. Smile

Beatricepottershouse · 16/12/2014 12:11

Giles, have you at all dad any of the recent threads on bf in public? Loads of women are put off bf as it is not socially acceptable and embarrassing especially when out and about.

TheFairyCaravan · 16/12/2014 12:11

She is not being discriminated against! Children aren't allowed in the building, including hers whether it is botttle fed, Breast fed or fed on fairy dust!

Beatricepottershouse · 16/12/2014 12:11
  • not dad, read rather
Beatricepottershouse · 16/12/2014 12:12

"As is your right."
Indeed Smile.

PortofinoVino · 16/12/2014 12:12

Mothers are indeed entitled to bf without being discriminated against. Thank goodness.

But in some places they are NOT allowed (without discrimination!), and they must get used to it.

Gileswithachainsaw · 16/12/2014 12:13

And this helps?

age restricted venues are doing nothing wrong and in fact are following their licencing rules. that has bugger all yo do with now women feel bf in a coffee shop.

those are places where it's suitable and allowed.

TheFairyCaravan · 16/12/2014 12:14

Beatrice the reason why people think it is not socially acceptable is because some women go running to the papers if someone passes a comment towards them. Yes, that is wrong but it is not newsworthy. Every bloody week there is another article, so women think this sort of thing is going on all the time. It's not. Most women BF without incident.

Beatricepottershouse · 16/12/2014 12:15

Look the thread title is petty antagonistic no?
"To be getting fed up of these type of jumping on the band wagon breastfeeding"

What types? It's just shit stirring imo.

Why is OP getting fed up? I don get it.

Gileswithachainsaw · 16/12/2014 12:15

The laws are there for a reason. to protect children from harm and influences.

They are not there as some vendetta against women.

SquirrelledAway · 16/12/2014 12:18

So this woman turned up to a fulfill a contract for which she had been hired with a baby and babysitter in tow without prior arrangement with the hirer and was a little surprised when told this was not appropriate? Or have I misread the reports?