To have found Tamsin Grieg slightly mean on Graham Norton

[Noellefielding]

Firstly she looked amazing, if a bit uncomfortable showing that level if Uber oiled flesh... Lordy Tamsin! I mean I have to tip my hat to how fit she is and how buff she looks although it did make me wonder about the maxim after 30 (or is it after 40) Either show arms OR legs not both.

BUT that story she told about her dad saying on his deathbed 'don't let yourself go like your mother did.' I guess is fine if you are an only child but Greig isn't. It seems massively tactless and Lots of people can't keep as buff as Greig at her age for all sorts of different reasons. I was surprised at how unkind she sounded.

[FindoGask]

I don't really agree with you OP but you've taken a right pasting for having a pretty mild opinion! I agree, from what you said it was quite an off-colour joke, and one I can't imagine making about my own mum. I do like TG too. But I think she looks great in her frock.

[FindoGask]

That should say "I don't totally agree with you" - as you can see, I do agree a bit. Sorry. It's early.

[JapaneseMargaret]

Women judging women on their attractiveness rather than their talent. Nice. So much for equality, eh?

And the whole point of the OP was to take umbrage with TG's dad for cruelly judging his own wife on her attractiveness, and warning the daughter not to go the same way.

Why thinking this ^^ is bad and getting a total pasting as a result is beyond me.

[jay55]

She's doing a musical, she'll need to be uber fit, even though it's not a splashy dancy one.

[flowery]

I think the "pasting" the OP has received is less about her opinion of the comment in question and more to do with her pearl-clutching criticisms of Ms Greig's appearance as showing too much "skin" for someone her age.

[AlphaBravoHenryFoxtons]

If anyone has behaved in an unsisterly manner, it's TG. And on national TV.

[TheChandler]

Mystifying.

[brandyandcoke]

I watched this last night.

I really don't get the fuss. She wasn't mean or 'unsisterly' or any of that nonsense. She told an amusing anecdote, as you do on that kind of show. If you have a problem with what she said please rest assured it is indeed your problem, and says more about you than it does Tamsin.

[motherinferior]

This thread is dividing into those saying:

(a) TG told an anecdote seriously about her father's deathbed warning not to let herself go, and smirked to demonstrate how she had taken his advice:

(b) TG told an anecdote not seriously about her father's deathbed warning not to let herself go, and smiled afterwards at the punchline.

I personally am in camp B. I fail to see how that performance could be misread as "Daddy told me to look nice so I've always taken care to look nice". The fact that TG does look pretty damn fine - in a shock horror muscly sort of rather fabulous short-haired way - is not actually relevant. I realise some people may find TG's fabulousness personally threatening but I myself - despite being older, shorter and fatter - do not. I continue to worship at the altar of TG.

[MovingOnUpMovingOnOut]

What Brandyandcoke said. I saw it last night too.

I think some of you are being a bit literal. Maybe you've had your sense of humour bypassed or don't have the sarcasm gene?

It was clearly a funny story that is funny because it is so ridiculous, sexist and anachronistic. It isn't even Tamsin's view! She just repeated what he said in a "isn't that funny and ridiculous?!" eye-rolling way.

[MistressDeeCee]

So her father's last words were a diss to her mother.

I bet her siblings loved hearing that story told to the masses.

I saw interview and thought she was massively tactless too, you don't have to repeat everything do you, I wouldn't want my family to know my father said that (& its a weird thing to say to a daughter anyway) but I do think anything goes nowadays..as long as you look "hot" the defenders will come out in force whatever you say

[MovingOnUpMovingOnOut]

I did notice the poor woman wasn't allowed to finish a story on that show. Every time she started to answer a question one or other of the men on the show started furiously competing for Graham and the camera's attention.

Perhaps if she had been able to finish a whole anecdote it would all be clearer for those of you struggling with this? Although I'm afraid she would have still been looking fabulous in a little black cocktail dress that shows both knees and shoulders so that may still be too distracting for some of you

[TheChandler]

It was black humour, surely that was obvious? Some people deal with tragedy by joking about it. I agree its too literal to assume someone making such a joke is psychopathic reveller in death, too obsessed with their own appearance to notice the death of their own mother.

Women can't win, can they? Strange how multiplex-father Jude Law draws almost no criticism in comparison, despite his far more recent exploits on the family stage.

[TheSpottedZebra]

But, TheChandler, Jude wasn't showing his elbows was he? Nor was he so conspicuously moisturised.

Yeah.

[Sprink]

Fuck me, five pages? I'm hoping Tamsin Greig is a mumsnetter and laughing her socks off. Or her red stilettos. Whichever.

[duchesse]

Have to say my father said horrible things all the time about all of us, and tbh none of us would have given a shit if yet another rude thing he'd said had been reported, not even my mother, who really doesn't care at all what crazy things came out of his mouth. The point is that being brought up by a person like that forms your character in a certain way.

I don't think Tamsin Greig's mother or siblings will have given a flying hoot what her dad said on his deathbed.

[Blue69]

TG absurdly oily, was very intelligent and very funny. Proud of her!

Whoever doused her in that much oil should be spoken to. I kept wanting to reach forward and wipe her off with a hand towel.

[StripedCandycaneOss]

i thought jude looked rough.. my only thought on appearance that whole episoide was 'bloody hell, he's let himself go.. wtf has he done to himself?'

[Blue69]

Agree Jude has lost it.

Jim Carrey looked surprisingly old.

[Noellefielding]

this is aibu?
all you have to say is 'yes'.
you don't need to call the marines and have me murdered in my bed for crimes against the liberty of gym bunnies and gladiatorial body oil addicts, lawks, I did ask AIBU, and obvs I AM.

I still think she used to be a nicer person.....
I think fame can corrupt.
I think Jim Carrey interrupted appallingly but I think he is deranged at the best of times so going on air with him is going to produce that.
The Wee story was classic TG (who I still adore/worship etc) but the dad story was too ambiguous to be funny imho.
That's ALL.
And she did look too oily!
(runs and hides under table and covers ears singing lalalalalalalala)

[Noellefielding]

Also Jude has a serious acting career now so he can relax and go forth and father a child with every woman he meets.

Oh soz for that.

[Blue69]

I thought JC looked tired out. I imagined he was tired of having to 'be Jim Carrey'

Jude always to me looks weak.

[RiffyWammal]

I winced a bit at the story when I heard it, I think it was because some things weren't clear; the spirit of telling the story (although from the context of 'knowing' TG I assume self-deprecation rather than boasting); whether her father was joking or actually being horrible and we were meant to find that funny, whether her mother was in the room/still alive etc...maybe it was the way it was edited but it needed to be explained better.

For what it's worth I thought TG looked cold and uncomfortable, but if she was happy with what she was wearing then good for her.

[shadylane]

Jude doesn't care he's a party boy.

[TheChandler]

I hope Tamsin Greig makes a comedy sketch out of this thread!

JL looks as if he has been round the block a bit too much. Mind you, he has always looked a bit like that, and a bit too narrow of build to be conventionally good looking enough for me (I'm fussy). I'm sure he's got an interesting personality though.