AIBU to believe in conspiring theorys?

[FriedFishAndBread]

That they never really landed on the moon, the rothschilds and their central banks in every country but two, jfk, Martin Luther King, the Whitehouse has actually admitted assignating malcom x, the pesticides they put in food to kill us and the flouride in water makes us stupid and is rat poised.

I may have been on ig to long... can I please have some common sense or is it true and the world's richest are out to get us and control us.

Btw a really good book for both believers and non-believers of Conspiracy Theories is 'Them' by Jon Ronson.

The thing about Holocaust deniers that I don't understand is...how do they explain all the other people who were killed in it? The gypsies, disabled people, mental ill people, politics dissidents?

It blows my mind that people deny the Holocaust occurred, how can people be so very stupid/ignorant/bigoted?.

A conspiracy theory is just that, a theory. Until it is back up with something other than speculation, you'd be nuts to process the information and surmise it was fact.

"Also, you might be interested to know that there were a few celebrities (Seth McFarlane being one of them) who were due to be on those planes, but then missed them."

You get that with any disaster. I remember a poster on here pointing out that lots of people claim to have been booked on the Herald of Free Enterprise but they missed it due to various problems in the UK. But it sank in Zeebrugge.

They are always too complicated. If you wanted to get rid of one person then you just need one guy with a big truck to shove them off the road in a place with a big drop. Simple to arrange and only one witness. There are other ways too which are just as easy.

With large events like faking the moon landing 'they' supposedly found a way to silence 1000s of people in dozens of countries for decades, but this guy on youtube who lives with his mum has proof?

Alisvolatpropiis - The problem with history is that it is never written without an objective or a political agenda. History books are not a simple display of facts. And facts only answer questions of where, when and how, not why? So what we learn about the holocaust is subjective opinion. People do not present actual facts.

It is foolish to deny the existence of these places, or what happened at them. But people rarely look at the geopolitical environment of the time, the financing or these camps, the financing of the political structures, the cultural ethics of age, both in Germany and abroad. With any subject such as this,everyone has an agenda or a drum they wish to bang. Few are open to looking at the whole picture and not judging, but accepting what happened happened.

..., but this guy on youtube who lives with his mum has proof?

LMAO.

Oh well if it comes to that I expect the motives and events leading up to the holocaust were probably more complex than presented in films. I expect people could interpret finer points differently. But denying it happened would be mad and/or malicious wouldn't it.

Same for other big events. Why we joined in WWII was probably more complicated than us standing up for the freedom of people everywhere.

BackOnlyBriefly - Spot on. We all know something happened, we can all speculate as to exactly what, to what extent, and why? We know the big picture why? But over simplifying history is a very poor way of learning and does no favours to those who went before us. At the very least we should do justice to the dead of all nations and accurately record events to allow those who wish to, to learn from it.

I think a lot of the Holocaust denial is about denying the Jews positive "special treatment", e.g. compensation, respect, sympathy, safety. The history of anti-Jewish sentiments has been around for so very long, and often officially sanctioned, and I think some people still cannot or will not accept them as being "worthy" of the same human rights as the rest of us. It's sickening.

I don't think governments set up conspiracy theories, though they use propaganda to their own ends, e.g. the use of women during WWII to take the place of men in the workplace, and then boot them out again once it was all over.

I think there are many reasons why conspiracy theories arise. Some of those may be a kind of specialness people can feel in a group. Some might be because of fear that can't be easily articulated. I think that people who believe in chemtrails are associating crop-spraying with DDT (long ago, and was harmful) with contrails from the increase in numbers of aircraft in more recent times. They're putting two unconnected things together and coming up with a threat, mostly because there's a whole lot of things happening these days and understanding it all is an almost impossible task, even if one could sort the wheat from the chaff on the internet.

Of course, there are also people who put two unconnected things together to make up a silly story, as I did above. (Sorry. But I did use a username that I thought would give the game away.)

lots of people miss/cancel flights every day. It is only noticed when said flight clashes.

getting in a car with a drunk and asking him to go fast? Put your belt on.

and yes, any excuse for anti-semitism.

it's the ones who think aircraft contrails are evil sprays of nasty chemicals that make me sing along with 'The Galaxy Song'

Well what I said about the Pentagon having missiles to shoot down a stray plane is apparently bollocks. I have done a lot of internet research on it and it was a theory put forward after 9/11 and then it just spread round the internet like gossip.

I am glad I looked it up now as most of the 9/11 conspiracy myths can be debunked but that one bugged me as I saw it on a TV documentary and so thought it was legit.

My ex's granddad was one of the British troops sent in to the concentration camps at the end of WW2 and he never recovered psychologically from what he saw. So I definitely believe the Holocaust was real..

VIP paedophile networks 'shut down police investigations which got too close', retired officers claim

I basically concur with Quietattheback. It is possible for some to behave very badly and they let others take the blame which is essentially what happened in WW2. So when people blame the Rothchild's (who actually had very humble beginnings) and that turns into fully-fledged antisemitism , it's not the super wealthy who get persecuted - no, they get out in time or can pay the right people off. It's people who are used over and over again as pawns of the elites regardless of their religion.

9/11 was 100% an inside job with full knowledge of it within the U.S, U.K, Israeli and Saudi power circles. OBL was not who we are led to believe he was. And that's all I have to say.

And YWBU to believe every conspiracy theory just for the hell of it...

I think YABU to believe conspiracy theories (conspiring theories?) just because you have read them on the internet, without having a fairly through knowledge of the background and facts.

YABU to believe the official version of JFK though. That's nothing to do with being a conspiracy nutter or believing conspiracies because it makes life more interesting. I wouldn't even call it a conspiracy.

*thorough

Regarding Sandy Hook I've just read on the internet today that a famous (in the US) saxophonist, whose daughter Ana was killed at Sandy Hook, has released an album about her short life.

So obviously it happened and there are quite a lot of sadly bereaved people out there.

"Is there much of a difference between how the Germans treated the Jews had how the Jews treat the Palastinians?"
just wtf?

i enjoy conspiracy stuff im quite in different but some stuff makes you think occasionally, you need to sort the wheat though, even with people like richard d hall, some stuff = interesting other stuff= hmm stretching a bit there.

9/11 was 100% an inside job with full knowledge of it within the U.S, U.K, Israeli and Saudi power circles. OBL was not who we are led to believe he was. And that's all I have to say.

I love the suggestion that this mahoosive secret which the US, UK, Israelis and Saudis all know about and have managed to keep absolutely quiet to date - despite the fact that several thousand people would have had to be in on it - has been vouchsafed to Anonymess for her to trumpet round the internet.

So who was Bin Laden then? anonymess