To ask you what you know about Forever Living?

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So a friend has started selling Forever Living, she seems to be doing well so far which is great for her but it seems too good to be true, can I ask your experiences with the company, if any? She's a good friend so I'm hoping it works for her, so far the only draw back i can see is a lot of advertising to friends (via fb), which long term probably would annoy folk.

Also the products, anyone tried the weight loss stuff? She has lost loads so if its not just water that will all go back on then I jump on the bandwagon with her :D

No, laqueen... Once you're in, you're in.

Death is the only way out...

Are people REALLY earning 13k a month from it? Surely not

There's a couple of mothers at school pushing this stuff. We run and hide when we see them coming....

I've not heard of Forever Living, it's Juice Plus around here. Sounds like a similar kind of scheme though.

Honestly Gary. They post pics of their 'statement'. She has a huuge fancy house, huuge fancy range rover, kids go to private school.

Actual genuine professionals do it too tho. I went to one of their 'business presentations' and I'll be honest, the enthusiasm is contagious and lawyers were there saying 'my wife signed up to this. I told her it was absolute shit. Two years later I see it isn't and now we are a sales team' lawyers who looked into it and saw no flaws.

I just don't get how??!!

Ermmm. Ok I'll give it a go.

Everything they sell gives them 30 per cent profit (if they sell it at rrp). They then get 5 per cent payment on 'bonus day'. They get a percentage of what everyone under them sells, and the people under them and the people under them. It's called multi level marketing.

I think that's all there is to it but I'm not 100 per cent.

They also get 'chairmans bonus' cheques on their 'success days' which are at least twice a year. I'm going to guess quarterly. These could be 25k cheques etc as a big congratulations.

They get a car plan if they sell x amount. Fancy fucking cars.

They get loads of shit. If they do it well.

They also get an all expenses paid holiday possibly twice a year, possibly once. Next year it's Singapore. All expenses paid and spending money.

On paper, it sounds fucking fabulous. But I think for most it isn't.

Argh I've just seen this show up on my Facebook feed... It's getting closer...

I used to use aloe vera cream from the high street for my face in my teens (£2 from a well known high street store for large tube). I use something else now as i found something i prefer but cant understand why if people want to use aloe vera they dont buy it from a high street. If anything goes wrong you have more come back surely from a shop to a person. (Misses scams point completely)

Londonrach, high street stores use the whole plant in their products. Forever grow their own plants (and look after the gardeners really well) they also only use the gel/goo that's inside the plant, carefully dissecting it from the waste product.

I lost 14 lbs in 2 weeks on WW...think I'll stick at eating real food

A few years ago when I was setting up my business the local trade quango ran very good free seminars etc and I went to a few (tax, VAT etc).

On the email flyer they had an inspirational speaker with a blurb about how to be successful, set up your own business, never look back, how became an overnight success etc. He was my ex neighbour but one (I had moved about 2 hours away but my family still lived there) and from what I recall his family and children pretty much lived hand to mouth because of him giving up a job and becoming self employed- they lived a modest life, modest home, old cars etc but I know they had money issues- I could never work out why he was the inspirational life success guru - must have done a good sales pitch!

someone on a Facebook group I am on tried to recruit me and then acted all innocent when I said I wasn't interested in a pyramid scheme and seemed not to have a clue what I was on about!!

huge scam imo

DH's 'friend' (really a parent of DH's DS's friend who had a brief school-gate conversation and identified him as a potential recruit) visited our house to tell us all about it.
Spent half an hour making statements such as "my wife used to suffer from IBS, since she's been taking the aloe it's stopped" with absolutely nothing to back any of it up. Apparently he knows of someone who has left their job in the police force to do Forever Living full time as they make so much money from it.
There's a £200 fee for the basic 'business in a box' and from what I gather if you manage to sell it all you'd make £100 profit. He didn't really go in to what additional costs would come out of that. It was all quite confusing and unclear. If I was interested I would have had loads of questions to ask but I was suspicious from the beginning.
Needless to say I won't be investing my money- I've always hated sales it's just not for me.

I'm the sun today, michael from I'm a celeb has lost 17lb in 11 days. Maybe it is starvation then...

I'm a distributor but I joined purely because I love the products and can get them cheaper. I don't sell unless anyone asks and I have a couple of regular buyers. Some of my friends are doing really well selling it and good for them.
The Aloe is produced more cleanly and purely and I agree with the propolis cream.
The shampoo and conditioner is amazing, if you have anyone local see if you can get some free samples.

Just to add we aren't allowed to make any medical claims with anything but it may help certain conditions.

From personal experience as a Forever Distributor, I'd say be very careful of joining this MLM. Yes the products are lovely and they do what they say on the box, however they are grossly overpriced which unless you already come from an affluent background with access to affluent clients you have no hope in climbing the rungs, especially in today's economic downturn. These products may be a raving success in America but the ideology that sell them over there does not work over here. As a Forever Distributor I have not had anything like the help and support they boast of. One of the drawbacks of anyone being able to recruit and mentor. I have become very suspicious of the spiel which is mechanically recited from a booklet if questions are asked about the management and endorsements. Even more suspicious is the way in which the distributors are brainwashed in the 'Meetings' into believing that 'they too can have the lifestyle they have always dreamed'. I have noticed the amazing transformation of normal emotions become a glazed eyes and transfixed smile; talk about cognitive dissonance. Any queries are classed as negative factors to be avoided. People often with no mentoring or line management experience are seduced into believing they can attain a huge salary and travel the world, often they sell to their families who sell to other family members for which the distributor and the distributors mentor gets a percentage of the 'sale'. It is not quite what if first appears and it relies on a persons disgruntlement with their lot as they are naturally seeking a better way from the normal toil and this scheme is sold as an answer their prayers. So drawn in are people that they fail to accept that they are failing- hense the hard and often insistant and sometimes aggressive sell tactics usually followed by complete withdrawal. Be aware that a great deal of psychological manipulation is often used too. Good products sell themselves, no need for the over the top selling.

Oh FFS we're having a FL day.

blimey ...

I don't know whether you're Adam May or Marie-Claire, but neither of the people in that exchange have exactly covered themselves in glory. Reading through all that posturing took precious minutes of my life away that I'll never get back.

Perhaps knitting or metalwork would be a more productive hobby.