Aibu too not understand the reaction of the Ferguson Michael Brown in the USA

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My Dh thinks that it is a disgusting example of racial inequality in America. But i think having read a lot of articles/news that the police officer was only protecting himself. Although it is unfortunate that someone so young died.

However Dh feels strongly it is disgusting racism. He called me blind and crazy (lighthearted). Aibu for thinking this.

I haven't read the entire thread but surely the main point is not whether Darren Brown should have shot Michael Brown or not but whether he should have been tried?

Given the disputing evidence and witness reports there should have been a trial. If there was any suggestion of racism or wrongdoing there should be a trial, to say otherwise shows a massive contempt for life and IMO especially black life.

Exactly, dreamingbohemian.

Sorry -Darren Wilson.

eatingmywords my understanding of the American judicial system is that the evidence will be heard in front of a grand jury who will decided by jury if there is a case to answer, so in effect the evidence has been evaluated.

well it was only white people complaining, the black people on the thread sent me private messages to say that they agreed with what I was saying and that they couldn't believe the ignorance of some posters. I bet you don't believe that either.

Yes, exactly MrsDevere. American society perceive black men as violent and threatening. And this makes black men much more vulnerable to being killed in "self defence."

I don't believe the young cop was a cold blooded murderer. I do believe he misread the situation because of the culture he was born into. A culture that black people are understandably desperate to change.

I don't believe for a second black people emailed you saying they agreed with you!

And how do you know what ethnicity people are on this thread? I certainly haven't mentioned it.

Mrs Yes I personally believe the 'whatever reason' is institutionalised racism, but I'm saying even if some posters here don't want to accept that, it is still the more likely scenario of what happened.

Nick I honestly think if you yourself killed someone, you would feel remorse. You might not think so in theory but in practice this is pretty much the norm, however much people are exonerated. So I don't want to call YOU a sociopath or stupid. I'm reserving my remarks strictly for people who have actually done it.

Like I say, no one can say exactly how they would feel as it's impossible to say. But in a kill or be killed scenario then I imagine I would feel shock, horror, relief, traumatised to name but a few, but I can't say I would definitely feel guilt. If I could hand on heart say to myself that there was no other option then guilt might not be one of them.

It would probably depend on how bad a bastard they had been and how much my life was at risk, to be honest.

I don't get the whole 'perceived as more threatening than he actually was' line. The officer's claim is that he was grappling with someone who was proving much more powerful than he, and who was grabbing at his firearm attempting to seize it. How much more threatening would it need to be, if there's any truth to that version of events?

this thread is awful.

for some people it seems there's always a reasonable explanation for why, when confronted by police, black men and women just seem to end up beaten, and even dead

UncleT -- if he was actually attacking the cop and trying to grab his gun, yes, that would be threatening. But we don't know that actually happened. His friend says the cop grabbed Brown first and they were just shouting at each other when the first shot went off. So it's possible the cop panicked.

Also, the friend says Brown had turned around to surrender when the fatal shots were fired. Again, the cop might have panicked and misinterpreted this as aggression.

But the cop is hardly going to admit this and go to jail, is he? Of course he will make Brown sound as threatening as possible. And I guess we'll never know the truth. But the cop's version of events really does not make much sense.

Sure - I suggested pretty strongly that we don't know, and have said as much repeatedly. For those horrified at 'attempts to fund reasonable explanations' - can you not see the difference between discussing hypothetical explanations versus subscribing solidly to one particular theory? Is there any possible scenario in which you would concede that his killing might have been defensible, or do you genuinely refuse to even consider the possibilities seriously? I just don't understand the value in not considering all possibilités, as opposed to assuming and rushing to judgement.

The autopsy report doesn't back Browns friend account up. It states he didnt have his hands up when he was shot. So that makes his friend an unreliable witness. I'd believe science over a biased witness. I think its very unlikely that the autopsy Dr would lie.

Sme of the independent witnesses back the officers account up as well.

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well it was only white people complaining

How do you know??

At the end of the day, if he hadn't committed crimes, he wouldnt be dead.

At the end of the day how many if you have a job (eg police) where you are continuously amused on a daily basis? Walk in their shoes and then think again.

If I felt threatened by a criminal, colour big important, i would rather kill than be killed.

Abused ..... Not amused

dreamingbohemian, Are you really that stupid?

"And guess we'll never know the truth. But the cop's version of events really does not make much sense."

the physical evidence shows the cop was telling the truth.

the friend first said he was shot in the back while running, then said he had his hands up and not moving, both of which have turned out to be lies.

Black people are abused by the police on a daily basis they can stop being police officers black people can't stop being black. You shouldn't be killed for possibly being an arse should you?

He was killed because he attacked a armed police officer, how can you not understand that creighton?

well it was only white people complaining

How do you know??

As usual though, neither side's examples of bad behaviour justify the other's.