Aibu too not understand the reaction of the Ferguson Michael Brown in the USA

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My Dh thinks that it is a disgusting example of racial inequality in America. But i think having read a lot of articles/news that the police officer was only protecting himself. Although it is unfortunate that someone so young died.

However Dh feels strongly it is disgusting racism. He called me blind and crazy (lighthearted). Aibu for thinking this.

Creighton well it was only white people complaining

And you know this how? I don't know what thread you are referring to so I have no idea exactly what MNHQ messaged you about but maybe it was because you were actually being offensive with what you were saying?

How can you accept the casual killing ofblack people?
I really can't understand that .

Because its not the casual killing of black people, its scum attacking a police officer and getting shot, are you really to stupid to understand that?????

Me offensive? Never .

I find this case and the numerous other ones horrifying tbh. I would be terrified if I lived in the USA and had black children.

I also heard footage has been released showing him PAYING for the stuff in the shop so he wasn't stealing! And I thought there was footage of the shooting where he certainly wasn't wrestling with the police officer.

And territ he wasn't 'scum' he was s person with a mother and father and his whole life ahead of him Ffs.

There is a huge problem with institutionalised racism in the USA and people are not prepared to put up with it any longer, hence the protests.

Well I think your statement that "all school shootings in America are done by spoilt white middle class" kids is pretty offensive. And also inaccurate.

attack a police office = Scum

Tinkerbell It doesn't look as if we're going to get an answer as to how Creighton knows "it was only white people complaining" does it??

Terriit16 - exactly, spot on

It's unclear that he ever attacked a police officer. The accounts vary. The facts we do make it not particularly likely.

It's clear that the officer thought so.
It's clear that the police are poorly trained in St Louis.
It's fair for people in Ferguson to expect better.
It's understandable that they would be upset to see that nothing was going to change.

Hi everyone,

Just to answer creighton's posts, we don't tell posters they have to stick up for white people - or any other race for that matter - but we do contact users if their posts have been reported to us for expressing racist viewpoints and we agree that they were racist.

As ever, if you feel that we've made an error of judgement, please do get in touch and we'll take a second look.

we don't tell posters they have to stick up for white people - or any other race for that matter

Don't worry, Amy - I don't suppose the vast majority of us imagined you did

Toomanyhouseguests,

"It's unclear that he ever attacked a police officer. The accounts vary. The facts we do make it not particularly likely. "

The physical evidence shows the first two shots where fired from within the car, and that MB blood was there, so that makes it very likely the police officer was telling the truth so please stop with the bullshit.

I think one thing that needs to be changed in ferguson is the ratio of black cops to white cops. Something like 4 to 120 currently. They need to sort that out.

Christ this thread is terrifying.

Here and in the US black people are stopped, arrested, beaten, killed and incarcerated at a disproportionate level.

In situations where interactions between black people and the police result in injury, including permanent injury, or death, of the person who is not the police, it is very very rare for anyone to be held to account.

The Met has been found to be institutionally racist FFS and their behaviour has resulted in riots. The stats for black men dying at the hands of the police in the UK is shocking and more shocking is that no-one has ever been brought to book.

We know that there are problems with institutional racism in the US police as well, it has been shown up time and time again.

The attitude on this thread from so many is just really shocking. And frankly no wonder people riot. Death after death after death and daily harrassment and all the rest of it and people like you sitting at home saying yeah they're scum so what just kill em I don't give a fuck.

Jesus.

SevenZarkSeven, we are not talking about all black men, we are talking about Michael Brown, in this case the police officer acted correctly .

And it wasnt the Met police fault for the Riots, it was the twats that went out rioting.

I see.

Reading your posts I understand your balanced perspective is that this young man was scum and you are pleased he is dead.

Right.

Territt, I've been refraining from calling you stupid this entire thread, so it would be nice if you could do the same

The physical evidence does not 100 percent back up the cop's story. Blood inside the car indicates he was shot at the car door, it does not prove he was punching the cop or trying to get his gun. The autopsy can't prove whether the fatal head shot came as he was charging or falling. Many mistakes were made, like the gun was never fingerprinted (which would have proved if Brown had touched it).

The cop is not a reliable witness either, he initially said Brown punched him 12 times, then changed it to two. His injuries are not consistent with getting punched in the head at full force (he has only a small graze on his cheek).

Much of the media is being simplistic and just reporting that the evidence backs up the cop but if you look at proper legal experts, they all say there are big problems with how evidence was collected and a proper trial would have exposed more inconsistencies.

And that's what people are upset about that there isn't even going to be a trial. If there was a real trial, done properly, and he was found not guilty at the end people might swallow that. But no trial at all just sends a terrible message.

Puzzledandpissedoff, no I don't think we are. Obviously totally ignoring stuff she has no answer to is the preferred method of managing lies and wild claims eh.

Creighton there you are, I was right not to believe your lies, straight from the horses mouth or in this case Amy from MNHQ.

I think we need to accept the grand jury's verdict, to be honest. Even if you don't like the verdict I think people should accept they were privvy to all evidence unlike us who are reading media reports and will interpret them as we see fit.

I think many people would still say he was guilty, the jury was racist blah blah even if he was taken to trial.

White People: The Middle East is so barbaric. They’ll cut off a person’s hand just for stealing!

White People when an unarmed black kid is murdered by police in America: Yeah, but he shoplifted some cigarillos, so…

He wasn't Murdered! he was killed while a police officer was defending himself!.

Territt16, this is the nub of the disagreement. Many of us believe that the cop was incompetent and misread the situation. Therefore, the cop is no murderer. Instead, both he and Michael Brown are victims of the culture they live in.