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My neighbour is harrassing me and said racial comments to me.

126 replies

Tammy1212 · 23/11/2014 22:52

She called me a black b n said I should be grateful to get a housing association flat in this country
She admitted to stealing my letters n parcel
She constantly bangs on her floor when my tv is on 15/100 volume so not loud she just wants silence when she is ready to go bed, She stomps around all day but when she's ready to go sleep I MUST be quite
She walks around in boots
She is constantly knocking on my door to scream at me about something
Example yesterday she left a note on my car about my "bad parking" then knocked on my door to start arguing with me about it with her boyfriend
I got in at 3am yesterday n turn on my tv so she started banging on my floor then because I didn't turn my tv off she came n banged on my door which I just shouted for her to * off through the door
She leaves her cigs on my window seal

I have reported her to HA since Sept
I recently reported her to police on Fri they still haven't come round.
I feel I'm going to hurt her seriously she is winding me up, she is obsessed with me it's not even normal
Will the police even do anything?

She tried to threaten the police n HA to me but I do nothing to her. She thinks my tv is on to piss her off, her problem is she does things to purposely upset me so she thinks I'm doing stuff to annoy her which I'm really not, I'm just living my life.

I'm watching tv now and I have my earplugs in and I can still hear her banging around/stomping just because my tv is on

What can I do about this? I'm pregnant n it's very stressful for me
I'm not moving cos I'm not the problem
She also had issues with the last tenant who was also black, she claimed he was harrassing her and played on the fact he had mental health issues to bully him.
She also accused me of having mental health issues which I have no history of. Everyone who has an issue with her is "mental"
Not everyone can move just cos of her so I'm not leaving. I want her evicted and I'm fuming she's been stealing my mail I accused the postman of doing it!

OP posts:
hellsandwich · 24/11/2014 15:33

Shameful Finger.

Fingeronthebutton · 24/11/2014 15:34

I didn't ask how a black person gets social housing. I was picking up on the first line of OP where he/she was asked 'how 'they' got a flat in this country.
Then again OP stated that neighbour has been here 10 years and knows it all.
This infers that OP is not from this country. I could be wrong, if I am, I hold my hands up. I would ask the same question if the OP was from France/Holland/Belgium/Germany.

Mynameismeandyou · 24/11/2014 15:36

I doubt Finger will come back, racists, driven by illogical hatred and leaders of the voiceless. I am she is changing names

Mynameismeandyou · 24/11/2014 15:40

I was picking up on the first line of OP where he/she was asked 'how 'they' got a flat in this country

You are intentionally misintepreting the OP, it was the neighbour who said she 'should be grateful to get housing in this country'

Fingeronthebutton · 24/11/2014 15:43

I'm still here. Can you explain what ' I am she is changing names' I won't dignify the previous sentence.

Mynameismeandyou · 24/11/2014 15:47

If you won't dignify mine, why should I give you the dignity of an answer

shadowfax07 · 24/11/2014 15:50

Tammy, I have been harassed by a neighbour (death threats were issued), so I do understand how stressful it can be. I'm glad that you have gone to the police about the racist comments.

I will say to you though that you have to be as clean as a whistle with your own behaviour, so that your neighbour can't make counterclaims about you to the HA. The thing is, TVs do sound lounder late at night, when there's less noise from traffic, etc around. YOU need to be seen to be that nice, normal, sane person who's being harassed.

You do need to consider your responses to other posters on this thread, because you are coming across as very aggressive and dismissive to anyone who disagrees with you. This attitude will not get you very far with either the police or the HA. Again, as others have said, you risk the situation coming across as six of one, half a dozen of the other.

HelloitsmeFell · 24/11/2014 15:51

exactly shadowfax

BrucieTheShark · 24/11/2014 16:02

DO the camera thing but don't tell her. She will deny banana and racism etc but hopefully you will get her on film doing or saying something.

Racist insults and harassment are completely unacceptable and I'm pretty appalled that posters think it's helpful to go on about the other pretty trivial stuff OP is doing as if to say there's fault on both sides.

Bollocks. Racist abuse overshadows all of this and I hope you catch her bang to rights and they prosecute and/or evict her. It makes my blood boil.

ClaudiaNaughton · 24/11/2014 16:10

If the stomping around is only when the boyfriend is there maybe it's him.

areyoubeingserviced · 24/11/2014 16:12

Finger- shame on you

ginnycreeper5 · 24/11/2014 16:52

Again stop patronising me by saying "grow up" I can watch tv if I want. I'm not being considerate to her until she learns to take off her god dam boots

People would stop saying ''grow up'' if yo stopped using your young age as an ''excuse''.

Twice now, you have said ''I'm only 22'' and ''shes ..''

ginnycreeper5 · 24/11/2014 16:56

You have to remember that TV's have an amplifying effect through thin walls and even if it's on low, it can still sound loud to a neighbour.
For all you know, she is probably having EH monitor your sound levels.

And if you consistently put yours on at 3 am in the morning, then your neighbour is probably sleep-deprived - hence she is getting ratty with you.
Consideration is need on both sides.
Tit for tat doesn't work.

ginnycreeper5 · 24/11/2014 17:00

I don't get why there isn't zero tolerance on racism like that. One strike and they're out

You are right - there should be zero tolerance.
But, how do we know for sure that this woman really was being racist towards the OP?
It's only the OP's word. She doesn't get on with the woman, so who's really saying what?

ilovesooty · 24/11/2014 17:27

Racist insults are totally unacceptable and should be officially reported to the police as hate crime incidents.
I must admit though I'm wondering how someone on such poor terms with their neighbour knows what colour their carpets are and the state of the shoes they use to walk on it.

Andrewofgg · 24/11/2014 18:05

What is clear is this: that at 3 a.m. if she can hear your TV it is on too loud.

If the walls are so thin that loud enough for you to hear means loud enough for her to hear - your problem. Don't watch it at that hour or use earphones.

HappyYoni · 24/11/2014 19:10

Finger - did you mean to sound like a horrendous racist??

Lj8893 · 24/11/2014 20:05

Finger-social housing isn't subsidised. Don't be such a fool to get sucked into daily mail claims.

ghostspirit · 24/11/2014 20:25

might be wrong. im thinking it is a racist issue. if it was not then why did the neighbour even bring op's race/colour into it. why did the neighbour just say your tv is to loud. or can you keep the noise down etc. why she banging up her door about parking. maybe op is crap at parking. but whats that got to do with the neighbour? shes just using every excuse to bully the op. As soon as the neighbour used op's colour she last the argument there and then....

Coyoacan · 24/11/2014 20:26

But, how do we know for sure that this woman really was being racist towards the OP?
It's only the OP's word. She doesn't get on with the woman, so who's really saying what?

That way madness lies. We can criticise the things that an OP says they did, but we cannot start imagining that an OP is lying to us when they come on here to state their problem. Under those circumstances, we could never give an opinion or advice to anyone

PrettyPictures92 · 24/11/2014 20:49

OP I've been through neighbour harassment, a lot worse than you describe too. I can say this much though, your argumental and hostile attitude will resolve nothing.

With regards to the tv, 15/100 is actually quite loud depending on how your speakers are. My tv is kept at 6/100 because anything higher is too loud and disturbs the neighbours. If your TV is waking her up at 3 am it definitely is too loud. Unfortunately loud tv noise after 1pm is classed as anti social behaviour and your HA can give you a warning and eventually evict if it doesn't stop - the recording equipment you say they are putting in your flat will also pick up if you make too much noise.

Unfortunately too, her walking about is not classed as anti social behaviour or noise disturbance. The HA won't act on that alone.

Her racial comments and her coming to your door however is something that they can act on. Any evidence that you can give them will help. It's likely mediation will be attempted to resolve this first, if that fails the council will evict one of you.

The racial comments the police can deal with if you can submit proper evidence to them. In the mean time they might talk to her and let her know what's acceptable and what's not.

I hope you get this resolved before your child is born. It might help a lot to lose the confrontational attitude though, it could get you in a lot of trouble - especially if you're threatening violence to her.

PrettyPictures92 · 24/11/2014 20:50

That's supposed to say 11pm not 1pm, sorry

PrettyPictures92 · 24/11/2014 20:53

Also please stop using the fact you're 22 as an excuse... I'm 22, with two kids and no where near as immature. It gives the rest of us "young" women a bad name.

JoffreyBaratheon · 24/11/2014 21:03

Hello, you're right. It's how we got our antisocial neighbours, am sure.

If I was you OP I'd record everything - if you could get that kind of racism on tape, you'd very likely be able to get her dealt with. And whatever happens, log it all (my council accepted me emailing it to myself as that date-stamped/timed everything - easier than filling in their log forms).

MidniteScribbler · 25/11/2014 00:04

Think I have an attitude or whatever I really don't care about your irrelevant opinions

Then why the fuck did you post on a forum called 'Am I Being Unreasonable?' if you didn't want opinions?