To not want my Grandchild to hunt?

[salsmum]

I am very much into animal rescue and hate to see cruelty against humans AND animals. DIL is pregnant with my 1st Grandchild which I'm obviously very excited about, I texted her today to ask how she was and how DS and 'bump' are and she said she was fine...etc.. and then excited tells me that her Nephew aged just a month into his 8th year is going out on his first hunt . Her family are country people and my DS will be moving to the country once GC comes along. I really hate the thought of any child going hunting especially my GC because I think it's not something a child should see nor be encouraged to take part in. My DIL knows my feelings on animal cruelty and feel upset that she should mention 'the hunt' to me (in an excited-so proud of DN way).

What worra said really

Education is the way forward always has been, if you want a part in your GC life I'd keep stchtum if I were you

I don't think death is something they should be rubbing their thighs over and enjoying this 'sport' in their spare time.

Oh, I'm sorry, I see you did describe this "glee". People who hunt rub their thighs.

Do they all resemble the Sheriff of Nottingham as well?

YANBU. But there's nothing you can do about it. Your son chose to marry this woman and you're stuck with it. :(

Oh, I'm sorry, I see you did describe this "glee". People who hunt rub their thighs. Do they all resemble the Sheriff of Nottingham as well?

Oh dear

IME they certainly do get a kick out off it. I certainly used to when I hunted.
Thankfully I started to question what I was seeing and doing.

Mel0Drama They do get very defensive about their blood thirsty activities.

Would you care to explain the process by which young animals move from farm to slaughterhouses? ie how do you think they get there?

For that matter, where do you think the ingredients for the pigment in your tattoo came from?

What was the kick you got not having a go genuinely interested

I really wish people would direct even a quarter as much attention to the cruel practices going on in our slaughterhouses, large farms and animal transporters that they do towards hunting. Because then they might actually achieve something worthwhile in terms of animal welfare.

Something all hunters wish people would do I guess. That way they would be allowed to get on with murdering our native wildlife without the constant scrutiny.
That said, how do you know they don't?

I don't know about glee. But I enjoy hunting - it is difficult and something I am proud of being able to do well, eating the meat of an animal you have killed, cleaned and butchered yourself is far more satisfying than opening a packet from a supermarket.

Meat cooking on fire reaches right down to what it means to be a human I suspect.

Humans are animals and I think most carnivores/omnivores enjoy the thrill of the chase.

People who hunt for sport, get enjoyment from hunting and killing animals.

That is a FACT.

You can pick on my words all you like regarding 'glee' and 'thigh rubbing' but it doesn't change the FACT, does it?

eating the meat of an animal you have killed, cleaned and butchered yourself is far more satisfying than opening a packet from a supermarket.

Hunting with hounds does not equate to this on any level.
But I'm sure those lovely people are just doing their bit for rural ecology aren't they

Yes it is the point...or at least it's my point from my earlier post.

I can't understand how anyone would get a kick or a buzz out of taking a life.

Yes, lives have to be taken but enjoying it as a sport says a lot about the person to me.

Of course people get enjoyment from hunting! Why shouldn't they?

Or do you do hobbies which make you feel miserable?

Odd....

She is ok to be proud of her nephew.

You are ok to have your own personal thoughts but what she allows her child to do is nothing at all to do with you. you do not make nor have a part in the making off decisions when it comes to children who are not your children.

Meat cooking on a fire does not reach right down to what it means to be human. It reaches right down to what it means to be an animal. Being human is supposed to be a bit more than that. Not in some cases clearly.

Worra People who hunt for sport, get enjoyment from hunting and killing animals. That is a FACT

Who gave you the authority to prescribe the psychological thought processes of a group of people? Although I'd be interested to hear your take on serial killers...

Personally, the three times I hunted were to educate a particularly backward thinking horse. It worked, and had a successful life. Had absolutely no idea what was going on at the end with hounds at all, too busy controlling horse and chatting with people. Horses tend to respond well to being ridden in a herd environment across natural countryside.

I also did it because I didn't want to be one of those ignorant people who condemns something they haven't tried. Its not really my thing, but that's nothing to do with being or not being a thigh slapping murderous bastard. And I maintain factory farming, live long distance transportation of animals and certain slaughter practices are far more cruel. I only wish people would open their eyes and actually THINK about what they are doing. For instance, the way we build in this country - its so harmful to the native wildlife because we build on the few natural habitats and wildlife corridors that we have left, without any consideration at all. Not that much UK indigenous wildlife is left. We used to have wolves and bears as natural species in the UK.

You like chasing and killing things. Just own it ffs

This ^^

Dunno, never hunted with hounds (or on horseback for that matter). Try that where I am from and you get a dead horse.

I use a gun not a dog.

The OP doesn't say what sort of hunting.

Many hunts flout the law each week. It's entirely possible - likely, in fact - that this woman is encouraging her child to do something illegal. And certainly something immoral. So, the OP is in this respect superior to this woman. However she can't do anything about it (although if you susoect the hunt of engaging in illegal activity then shop them).

YABVU. I grew up in the country and hunting is a part of country life. Its a sport and I believe its fun to go riding cross-country (although I've never done it and don't have any interest in doing so).

I'd lose that proprietorial 'my grandchild' too, if you want to have a good relationship with your DIL in the future. Your son and his wife will raise their child as they see fit and you won't get a say.

As for your preachy tone about cruelty to animals - hunting done properly is no more cruel than putting a bullet through an animal's head in an abbatoir, in fact it's probably less so. And if you're talking about fox hunting its been illegal since the last Labour government, in case you hadn't heard.

Who gave you the authority to prescribe the psychological thought processes of a group of people? Although I'd be interested to hear your take on serial killers...

I don't need authority

Are you saying these poor sportsmen/women go out and hunt with tears in their eyes and a heavy heart...literally shuddering at the idea of killing animals but they do it none the less?

Or do you imagine they take up the sport because they enjoy it?

I do indeed like chasing and killing things.

Humans are animals. Jumped up monkeys.