... to ask if MN has a grumpy 'old' women topic?

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I know there is pedants corner but I was wondering if there was anywhere where like minded people who want to complain about words like amazeballs, and other grumpy things can go and be grumpy without being told to get a life?

Christmas chez Draconis .....

Early wake up, kids stockings (choc orange, paperback or puzzle book, shower gel, scrubbie, maybe some T shirts / shorts).

Breakfast (croissants, jam and Buck's Fizz for me before MiL arrives so I can cope with her)

Arsing about getting washed / dressed / drinking more / putting ducks in oven to slow roast.

At home we'd walk the dogs next but this year we're with family so probably tree presents next. That would be one for each boy from various family members so maybe 5-6 things total. Likewise us to each other.

I will probably have had my first PA snipe from MiL by now. Whether I respond with killing sarcasm / PA wit / swearing will depend on the amount of wine in my system. I will hide in the kitchen under the pretence of getting the rest of dinner ready (that'll be chopping cucumber and spring onion and pouring Hoi sin sauce from a bottle to a bowl then).

Lunch, then a walk for anyone under 60 while those over 60 drink more and doze on the sofa.

Back for board games, nibbles, wine and more wine. Dad will accuse someone of cheating or being unfair and shout loudly, one of the boys will sulk because they aren't winning, MiL will keep up those PA digs until I bite and I will drink some more.

Oh god I can hardly wait...

And we're staying in holiday accommodation so I don't even know if there's a tv.

Pack extra wine, Hic. You know it makes sense.

Bloody John Lewis bloody penguins.

Can't wait for I'm a Celebrity tonight and a proper Christmas advert - ie Iceland. Hope they're still doing the prawn ring.

Hic - that sounds like a diary extract

I'm a celebrity..... no, you're a D lister desperate for publicity. Don't get me started...

This year's Iceland Christmas ad features MN favourite Peter Andre. Just sayin'.

Peter Andre has been doing the Iceland ads for a while now, because that's where he does his weekly shop, obviously.

Ah. We record everything and skip the ads. I'm starting to wonder if I'll make it to new year without seeing any of the ones the media have been wibbling on about.

That post was missing the key word "Christmas".

Why do films have to be so long now? Every time I go to the cinema now I'm itching to be out of there at least half an hour before the film ends. OK so you've paid Leonardo $50m to be in the film but after 2.5 hours even I've had enough of him.

Dust - have you seen the Sainsbury one? If not, have a look on Youtube - it's very moving

Wash your mouth out, SirChenjin!!! There will be no YouTubing of adverts here. If I happen to catch it, so be it. But actively seeking it out? No no no.

I just googled it. Had to grab a hanky.

Humbug! You guys (I know, I know) are really harshing the grumpy old woman mellow in here. No tears. No hankies. Just wall to wall grump, please.

This is where I get to be grateful that we don't have UK TV. Actually we don't have terrestrial TV at all (or extra terrestrial, unless dh is watching X files) so no adverts.

On the other hand, NZ tv is seriously rubbish so we're not missing much.

There's a thread. Admittedly in Christmas where it belongs, but it came up on "most active". What are people wearing Christmas Day.

Clothes! Of some description. I haven't a bloody clue. But people know what they're going to wear, down to jewellery and it's still bloody November!

(I may be somewhat hormotional. I'll get a text from dh in a minute telling me he's looked at the calendar and to cut my colleagues some slack)

Hormotional! Love it!

I have Christmas hidden.

It is all fucking shit. It was fucking shit In My Day, too, but I expected it to be better shit by now.

And another thing! Why can't I have a bloody opinion without some whingeing twat moaning that somebody else might be offended by it?

OK, it doesn't happen often to me. But sometimes, you know, my Considerate Drive gets overloaded and I'd rather like a permanent sweaty-thread corner to dump all the seething irritation. I'm in!

And another thing ... Christmas. It's all [ball] [ball] [ball] [ball] [ball] [ball] !

Oh BOLLOCKS!!!!!

Even my slightly-witty-emoticon drive has fucked up.

You say that Dust - but your grumpy old woman curiosity will get the better of you, and you will be on the Tube of Yous with the rest of us snivelling along to the Sainsbury ad

Garlic have your opinion. Where your logic is flawed is that you are bothered if someone is offended.

Hold whatever opinions you like. If someone is offended by them, that's their problem. They can ignore you, argue with you, decide not to engage, post their offence far and wide - still doesn't stop you having your opinion.

If you offend too many people, you may want to look at that. If you only offend people who spend their lives looking for something to take offence at, I wouldn't let it bother you.

I'm delighted to say, Hic, that my first reaction to your post was irritation I don't hold back my opinions for fear of offending. I just get cheesed off with having to self-question whether my inner Tourrette has gushed forth phrases of dubious social merit.

But thanks for the advice :) You patronising cah.

Can grumpy old men (58) join?

Toby You don't need to be old or a woman, just grumpy.